What happened to the seer stones?

Post by **_beastie** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:13 pm

The Bible also supports stoning witches and killing smart mouthed children. You believe in that, too?

Post by **_ozemc** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:22 pm

charity wrote:
Runtu wrote:
I take it you do not subscribe to the idea that seer stones are relics of a credulous and superstitious time.

Revelations 2:17 and D&C 130: 10-11 both talk about a white stone. I don't think it is a superstitious idea.

Rev 2:17 talks about receiving a white stone with a new name that only you yourself know. It says nothing about using it to see the future, use for translations, etc.

The NAB calls it a "white amulet".

The Message Bible uses this terminology: "I'll also give a clear, smooth stone inscribed with your new name, your secret new name."

The Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition says this: " I will give the hidden manna, and will give him a white counter, and in the counter, a new name written, which no man knoweth, but he that receiveth it.

Post by **_Mercury** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:25 pm

charity wrote:
Runtu wrote:
I take it you do not subscribe to the idea that seer stones are relics of a credulous and superstitious time.

I don't think it is a superstitious idea.

You don't see using a stone in a hat as being superstitious? I find this comment to be either a dodgy lie or further evidence of your blatant ignorance and naivity.

Post by **_BishopRic** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:31 pm

beastie wrote:Miss Cleo has them.

Nope, I've got them. I'll let you know when I'm selling them on e-bay!

Post by **_KimberlyAnn** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:38 pm

BishopRic wrote:
beastie wrote:Miss Cleo has them.

Nope, I've got them. I'll let you know when I'm selling them on e-bay!

I bet Joseph employed them to see through dresses, though I bet they're no longer useful in that particular capacity. (Or you wouldn't be selling them on e-bay!)

KA

Post by **_evolving** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:40 pm

BishopRic wrote:
beastie wrote:Miss Cleo has them.

Nope, I've got them. I'll let you know when I'm selling them on e-bay!

what did you do ?? beat the crap out of Harry Potter, and steal his..

Post by **_BishopRic** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:47 pm

evolving wrote:
BishopRic wrote:
beastie wrote:Miss Cleo has them.

Nope, I've got them. I'll let you know when I'm selling them on e-bay!

what did you do ?? beat the crap out of Harry Potter, and steal his..

Nope, I got them legit. I've been translating other documents -- they'll be for sale soon and I'll announce when they're available

Yours truly,

~Mark Hoffman

Post by **_karl61** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:51 pm

BishopRic wrote:
beastie wrote:Miss Cleo has them.

Nope, I've got them. I'll let you know when I'm selling them on e-bay!

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dl ... category0=

they got some there now. Hurry!

Post by **_BishopRic** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:54 pm

thestyleguy wrote:
BishopRic wrote:
beastie wrote:Miss Cleo has them.

Nope, I've got them. I'll let you know when I'm selling them on e-bay!

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dl ... category0=

they got some there now. Hurry!

Amazing! Even non-mormons are gullible! Lol!

Post by **_karl61** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:07 pm

just to add that if you really want to read a good essay on seer stones, Susan Staker wrote one the best articles I ever read about the Book of Mormon and Seer Stones in American Apocrypha. It's a must read for anyone who wants to see how Joseph Smith viewed Seer Stones and how he gave important characters in the Book of Mormon the gift of the Seer.