BCSpace please respond - your loophole refuted

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Where is the list of doctrines that the FP and the Qo12 have made official doctrine by joint declaration? I am interested in knowing what they left out.


Reference my siggy and notice....

With divine inspiration, the First Presidency (the prophet and his two counselors) and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles (the second-highest governing body of the Church) counsel together to establish doctrine that is consistently proclaimed in official Church publications.


Let's just say that the following facts make the church false enough for me:

1. Prophets and seers of the past have repeatedly made statements to the world and congregation that are contrary to scientific fact.
2. Prophets in the early church have made public statements contrary to what present day prophets say especially with regard to race and gender.
3. Mormon scriptures make statements contrary to scientific fact if read without doing violence to the ordinary meaning of words.
4. Educated Mormons are in direct conflict with each other over what is or is not doctrine (its a house of confusion).
(Most Mormon belief things contrary to science and that exactly because they say it is doctrine.)


If you can't accept the Church's own clear statements about what is and is not doctrine and use doctrinal statements in your criticism, then all your claims against us are false enough for me as you are not even addressing the Church and it's doctrine=, just a strawman.

That's false enough for me but there is also all the problems with the Book of Abraham (false translation) and nonexistence Book of Mormon archeology not to mention the fact that the modern church doesn't look anything like the early church in terms of visions, supposed miracles and manifestations. The Mormon church is just as ossified and institutional as the catholic church. It is also boring, dry, repetative, droning, and aesthetically business-like in dress and archetecture.


Despite your feelings though, you can't leave it alone.

It is filled with stereotypical rightwing proestablishment dogma that flies in the face of Christs rather liberal anti-establishment message:


Following him entails becomming part of the Church he established beginning in Matthew 16.
Machina Sublime
Satan's Plan Deconstructed.
Your Best Resource On Joseph Smith's Polygamy.
Conservatism is the Gospel of Christ and the Plan of Salvation in Action.
The Degeneracy Of Progressivism.
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