A peculiar people (how?)

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Re: Badge of Honor

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Inconceivable wrote:I woulud add that Mormons wair this "peculiar" badge as a matter of pride - and proof that they are God's chosen people.

Keeping in mind that "peculiar" means something different to Mormons than it does to anyone else.

It does? how so?
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Re: A peculiar people (how?)

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Scottie wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:
Pet. 2: 9
9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal cpriesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:



Mormons believe they possess the restored Church, have the priesthood of God and are modern day Israel chosen to administer the gospel of salvation to the earth. This is what Mormon's and Mormon leaders mean when they say that members are a peculiar people and it is almost always used in reference to this verse. Nothing more and nothing less.

I seriously doubt that is all they are referencing.



Doubt away. Go search it in context and I bet that you will find it in reference to this passage more often than not.
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Re: A peculiar people (how?)

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Jason Bourne wrote:
Scottie wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:
Pet. 2: 9
9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal cpriesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:



Mormons believe they possess the restored Church, have the priesthood of God and are modern day Israel chosen to administer the gospel of salvation to the earth. This is what Mormon's and Mormon leaders mean when they say that members are a peculiar people and it is almost always used in reference to this verse. Nothing more and nothing less.

I seriously doubt that is all they are referencing.



Doubt away. Go search it in context and I bet that you will find it in reference to this passage more often than not.

Even if this is so, the quoting of a scripture and the practical application of the scripture are two completely different things.

The question is, how are people applying this scriptural phrase in the real world?
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Is not Peculiar Subjective?

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Jersey Girl wrote:I'll just reply to this one comment by coke since it summarizes what is contained in other posts.

We're peculiar because we don't smoke, drink, have sex before marriage, dress modestly, have no tattoos or multiple piercings, we look clean, we don't swear, etc.



I know a number of LDS (even apologists that I've encountered online) who drink, smoke and swear. On the otherside of that, I know many non-LDS who do not drink, have premarital sex, dress modestly, have no tattoos, multiple piercings look clean and don't swear.

There is not a thing on the above list that isn't encouraged/discouraged by say, a Southern Baptist Church. I see nothing "peculiar" about it at all. Certainly nothing that isn't found under the heading of fundamentalist or evangelical Christianity.


A fine discussion, Jersey Girl!

In the application of “peculiar,” are we not concerned with definition?

Would you regard the current news on the FLDS as news about a “peculiar” group of people?

We have two French friends who regard us as “peculiar.” Is not that concept in the eye of
the beholder
?

While we all have an idea of that that means, each of us also applies it from our own perspective
as well as our own living and living standards.

I don’t think “peculiar” is limited to religious perspectives although it can apply to them. Is it
peculiar for a man of 50 years to have 15 wives all under the age of 25? It is not if, if, one
lives in a culture where that is accepted or a normal state of relationships.

Texas law has largely avoided confrontation with the FLDS until most recent news developments there.

On the Today Show, some people from the FLDS group in Texas were asked: Is there abuse
of young girls in the Eldorado, Texas compound?


The answer from those interviewed was a resounding “no.” But the answer begs the question. What
Constitutes “abuse”?
From within the FLDS, the idea or notion of “abuse” is different (or may be) from
that of Texas law or US law.

Jersey Girl states:

“I know a number of LDS (even apologists that I've encountered online) who drink, smoke and swear. On the other side of that, I know many non-LDS who do not drink, have premarital sex, dress modestly, have no tattoos, multiple piercings look clean and don't swear.

There is not a thing on the above list that isn't encouraged/discouraged by say, a Southern Baptist Church. I see nothing "peculiar" about it at all. Certainly nothing that isn't found under the heading of fundamentalist or evangelical Christianity.”


JAK:

Thus, “peculiar” is relative to one’s own experience. If a practice is greatly different from one’s own, one may regard it as “peculiar.” That is the case regardless of the practice or the practices individual practices which certain groups or individuals have.

If ALL ones friends and members of one’s family are non-consumers of alcohol, they may regard consumption of ANY alcoholic drink as “peculiar.” On the other hand, if wine is normally a part of dinner and if all adults normally consume a glass of wine at dinner, such a practice is considered “normal” not “peculiar.”

We could apply the evaluation or application of “peculiar” to other areas you mention as well. While you raise an interesting point of focus, is it not the case that, like beauty, the idea of peculiar is largely in the eye of the beholder?

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Re: Badge of Honor

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Jason Bourne wrote:
Inconceivable wrote:I woulud add that Mormons wair this "peculiar" badge as a matter of pride - and proof that they are God's chosen people.

Keeping in mind that "peculiar" means something different to Mormons than it does to anyone else.

It does? how so?


From an outsider's point of view:

peculiar is to Mormon as a pocket protector full of pencils is to nerd.

Nerds don't get it. Neither do Mormons.

I understand why you had to ask, Jason.
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Re: A peculiar people (how?)

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Scottie wrote:Even if this is so, the quoting of a scripture and the practical application of the scripture are two completely different things.

The question is, how are people applying this scriptural phrase in the real world?


I don't think LDS go out and intentionally apply this phrase at all. It simply is because of what they are. So much time is spent calling LDS conformists here surely we're not going to start claiming that most LDS go out and intentionally act like oddballs because of this scripture (some such as me do act like oddballs but this is a matter of personal preference, not a mandate from God).
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Re: A peculiar people (how?)

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The Nehor wrote:
Scottie wrote:Even if this is so, the quoting of a scripture and the practical application of the scripture are two completely different things.

The question is, how are people applying this scriptural phrase in the real world?


I don't think LDS go out and intentionally apply this phrase at all. It simply is because of what they are. So much time is spent calling LDS conformists here surely we're not going to start claiming that most LDS go out and intentionally act like oddballs because of this scripture (some such as me do act like oddballs but this is a matter of personal preference, not a mandate from God).


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Re: A peculiar people (how?)

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Jason Bourne wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:Jason Bourne mentioned this in his post on another thread and of course, I've heard it many times prior.

Tell me, how are LDS a peculiar people?

Thanks,
Jersey Girl

(Please do not use this thread to take cheap shots at LDS.)



The idea of being a peculiar people comes from this verse:

Pet. 2: 9
9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal cpriesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:



Mormons believe they possess the restored Church, have the priesthood of God and are modern day Israel chosen to administer the gospel of salvation to the earth. This is what Mormon's and Mormon leaders mean when they say that members are a peculiar people and it is almost always used in reference to this verse. Nothing more and nothing less.


To be blatantly honest, Jason, I often get the feeling that LDS don't know why they use certain phrases. You'll notice, for example, the replies that I got on this thread alone, point more to WoW type legalistic aspects over spiritual aspects.

The verse you shared above, is topically spiritual.

Do you see how the replies here conflict with the origin of the phrase "peculiar people"? That's what I mean about LDS not seeming to know the origin of phrases such as this.

Thanks for your reply and information!
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Post by _Jersey Girl »

And just for general purposes, had someone put up a thread that asked how Christians should be a peculiar people in the world...my own answers would have been far different than what I've read here.
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