DCP: A New form of Missionary?

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_antishock8
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Re: DCP: A New form of Missionary?

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This kind of reminds me of the Donald Trump quote about his former wife, Ivana Trump, "Sure I only pay her $1-a-year, but she gets all the dresses she wants." Mr. Peterson may not make that much money from apologetics, but he sure does get paid a lot for it in terms of BYU salary, Church/BYU/FARMS sponsored travel, and other perks that doesn't come easily to people who aren't whateveritis he claims he's really not.

Typical underhanded Mormon doublespeak, obfuscation, and outright lying can't hide the fact that Mr. Peterson has a nice little lifestyle thanks to Mormon apologetics. He chills out all day long yammering at people on the Internetz, reads Mormon-related material and then writes some crapy reviews of what he read. He then gets to travel all over the world to yammer at people, mostly about Mormon apologia. Oh, and his family gets to come along for the ride on occasion. Wow. The perfect sinecure.

Reference New Jersey Girl (egh):

My guess is that most posters don't post what they really think on this board because (1) They don't care to think, (2) They don't know how to think, (3)They are afraid of alienating the group they "side" with or (4) They're just drunk on their ass.


Yes yes. We're just not nearly as perceptive and loquacious as our resident harpie. Her sophistication and insights are clearly superior to the ham-handed and clumsy postings done by the majority of posters on this board who can't think, don't want to think, cowardly, or just drunk. She adeptly maneuvers from thread to thread sprinkling insight and wit as a spry ballet dancer would through a cadre of nyloned ballerinos. She is a fleet footed intelligentsia on par with the esteemed Mr. Peterson who deigns to muck it up with the swine on occasion. Yes yes. *sniff* Brandy anyone?

*rolling eyes* Jeeeezuuus....
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Re: DCP: A New form of Missionary?

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The Nehor wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:In any case, I imagine that it is only a matter of time before "his highness" returns to grace us with his presence. In the meantime, I suppose we can expect him to continue lobbing his pathetic waterballoons from the cushy safety of the aptly named MADboard.


Pot, meet kettle. Keep lobbing waterballoons Scratch.


I, sincerely hope you pay 10+ tithing to this CULT you pimp, Nehor.
You may not grasp this concept yet but the whole religious minded State (Corridor)
is based on pyramid schemes and pimping.
We do pimp people we love. DCP is a cult figure, and I think (unlike what Scratch might think)
he is entitled to benefits he gets, he works his ass off for Gawd's sake.
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Re: DCP: A New form of Missionary?

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Mister Scratch wrote:I cannot help but think: How sad. DCP offered himself up as some kind of "comforter," but in the end, all he was interested in was a "conversion" to his "team." How completely reprehensible and appalling. What an utterly crummy way to treat a "friend."

This is consistent with LDS missionary strategy in general: acting like a "friend" so long as the target seems interested, but once that interest wanes the "friend" is gone.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."

-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
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Re: DCP: A New form of Missionary?

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Dr. Shades wrote:That's some interesting food for thought. Yes, we all know that the official missionary program--the one designed to bring people into the church--is run like a well-oiled machine. As you noted, the unofficial effort to keep people from leaving is entirely freelance, which lack of oversight leads to all sorts of excesses.


Yes, I believe that is the case. If there was an "oversight" committee, I think we could expect FARMS Review, and l-skinny, and those sorts of things to be shut down. SHIELDS would probably bite the dust as well.

This makes me wonder, though: What if the church did indeed institute just such an official "reverse missionary" program, complete with settings apart, callings extended, jurisdictions assigned, manuals issued, and general authorities overseeing? What would that effort look like, and who would be the types of missionaries called to it?

Alas, I think such a program would be kept on the "down low," like they originally attempted with the SCMC, since to admit the existence of such a program would simultaneously admit to a problem with members defecting.

Oh well, like I said, food for thought.


Yes, I think you're right. Further, just imagine what would happen to DCP's various acolytes if they dared to criticize him: JustMe, LoaP, and yes, even Pahoran, would all be discarded like leftover donut sprinkles. They are merely pawns in the chess game of Mopologetics.

In the meantime, I suppose we can expect him to continue lobbing his pathetic waterballoons from the cushy safety of the aptly named MADboard.


Has DCP been lobbing water balloons at you, or at MormonDiscussions in general (or both)?


Yes, he made mention of something MDB-related not all that long ago.
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Re: DCP: A New form of Missionary?

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Pokatator wrote:Nehor

There you go again with all this horrid violent talk. Man you have issues. Do you torment little animals in your neighborhood? I suggest you get some help or at least start over in Sunday School as a Sunbeam or something and get a little nicer view of life. Maybe sing "popcorn popping on the apricot tree" or "Jesus wants me for a sunbeam" when you get these evil thoughts, sing loud and hard until the thoughts go away. Try something please.

Sincerely,
Pok


No, I like animals. What evil thoughts? :)
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Re: DCP: A New form of Missionary?

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Rollo Tomasi wrote:This is consistent with LDS missionary strategy in general: acting like a "friend" so long as the target seems interested, but once that interest wanes the "friend" is gone.


Agreed. I have always felt that, as a church, we prostitute our friendship in an exchange for the possibility of a conversion. Anybody recognize the term "member friendshipping"?

Seniors get called to service missions. It also seems that at a certain age, maybe around 50 or so, it becomes very unlikely that an individual has a realistic option of deciding to leave the church, even when exposed to internet information about all things LDS. This could be due to lifelong cultural exposure, having grandchildren in the church, etc.

The Poster, "Charity" over at madb, fits the description in my minds eye of someone who would be called on an "internet service mission". I wouldn't be surprised if some sort of loose program is in the works. The bretheren did say to members to post blogs, etc on the internetto bolster the church. If my stake went to the trouble to call young couples as "Temple Patrons", just to help fill near empty sessions and provide the appearance of young, vibrant, enthusiastic temple attendance, then why not call seasoned members to fill LDS forums and defend the faith?
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Re: DCP: A New form of Missionary?

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I think that most of DCPs posts have lacked substance. He seemed to just post interference and background noise. He had subjects he won't touch, Adam/God and others, because there was no way to defend them so he stayed away from most everything.

A good example of his noise was the recent thread of 55 or so pages on the MMM book. Nothing but noise and cheer leading. But when beastie has a thread of substance on the same subject, guess what no DCP to be found.

I do think that DCP has reached a sort of "cult" status within the church.... pun intended. I do believe that the church is struggling with the impact of the internet. Take the recent directive for the rank a file to flood the internet with pro Mormon blogs. DCP is a similar experiment to a higher level.

Back when I was posting on MAD there was a thread about the Strengthening Members Committee. The issue was whether the boards and the internet was being monitored by the committee. DCP made repeated comments that no one from the committee was monitoring or even aware of the boards. He argued and argued that he talked to the committee all the time and talked to many in the Church Office Building and was meeting with all sorts of high ups and there was no monitoring going on. This line of argument from DCP went on and on that he was meeting with so and so and so and so and no monitoring was going on. Others argued that there was a snitch and they were being monitored.

I finally had enough and posted to the thread that DCP was the snitch because he was the only one talking to both sides the committee, the COB and he was the only one on the net. I used only his words. It was meant mostly as a joke but I was suspended immediately. This was a couple of days before the infamous Nov. 6, 2006 "cleansing" of the FAIR board in which I was banned permanently along with many others here. I think the truth hurt and DCP was a snitch and they all knew it.

Anyway for the second anniversary of that day I had a cupcake with two candles, I licked the cupcake and thought of Kimberly and then thought of how glad I am to be banned from such a mess.

DCP gets special treatment everywhere and I do think he is smart but his smarts are applied to little quips and useless dribble nothing of substance on the boards. A waste of talent in my book. He has to be smart enough to know the church is a farce but he has all the reasons to stay and defend.....family, status, perks, pride, money, etc. Just like it was stated in the temple you can buy anything in this world for money.

DCP is owned.
I think it would be morally right to lie about your religion to edit the article favorably.
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