Elizabeth Smart back in SLC again

[_Buffalo]

Call for references, please; where have I used this kind of cheap demagoguery "to attack others on a regular basis?"

CFR that you've ever NOT used cheap demagoguery.

[_stemelbow]

After skimming through here, suddenly Schryver's misdeeds seem like simple white lies at worst.

[_Buffalo]

How long was she with these two nutjobs - and did not try to escape?

Walking through crowded city streets in Utah and she did not try to escape?

Her father made a minor industry of her much of the time she was gone, the guy is shameless.

Mitchell belongs in the nuthouse, not in a prison cell. It is obvious he is mentally ill.

Joseph, it's easy to pass judgment from a distance. I think Mitchell exerted a lot of control over her through threats and intimidation. She was just kid, too, remember.

Her father seems like a twerp, though.

[_Themis]

After skimming through here, suddenly Schryver's misdeeds seem like simple white lies at worst.

We can all look like saints if we compare ourselves to the right person, but it does not mean that we are improving in our behavior or recognising that it is wrong. :)

[_Themis]

Her father seems like a twerp, though.

Maybe, but I doubt we know if enough to make that judgement.

[_DarkHelmet]

How long was she with these two nutjobs - and did not try to escape?

Walking through crowded city streets in Utah and she did not try to escape?

Do you feel the same contempt for non-mormons like Jaycee Dugard and other children (perhaps even being held captive at this moment) who have been brainwashed by their abductors and are too terrified to try to escape or speak out?

Her father made a minor industry of her much of the time she was gone, the guy is shameless.

Do you have the same contempt for non-mormons like John Walsh (who made a much larger industry) who have turned their grief into activism?

Mitchell belongs in the nuthouse, not in a prison cell. It is obvious he is mentally ill.

I don't care what they do with him, as long as he is not walking the streets a free man.

[_Hoops]

How long was she with these two nutjobs - and did not try to escape?

Walking through crowded city streets in Utah and she did not try to escape?

Her father made a minor industry of her much of the time she was gone, the guy is shameless.

Mitchell belongs in the nuthouse, not in a prison cell. It is obvious he is mentally ill.

You stupid s*** for brains! She was a 14 year old girl. They held her captive, they played head games with her, plied her with alcohol, she was raped on a daily basis...

who died and left you judge/jury of what a 14 year old girl should do while being held against her will or how a parent should react?

I hope to hell that you aren't a parent for the very thought of you procreating repulses me out of my mind.

Please do the world a favor and NEVER pass your DNA on to some poor innocent child!

So... you disagree with Joseph, right?

[_stemelbow]

We can all look like saints if we compare ourselves to the right person, but it does not mean that we are improving in our behavior or recognising that it is wrong. :)

Oh I agree. I just wanted to be clear that I agreed with others here that Joseph's take on this reflects extremely poorly on him.

[_Infymus]

You stupid s*** for brains! She was a 14 year old girl. They held her captive, they played head games with her, plied her with alcohol, she was raped on a daily basis...

who died and left you judge/jury of what a 14 year old girl should do while being held against her will or how a parent should react?

Why one Richard G. Scott, Jersey Girl.

The Lord may prompt a victim to recognize a degree of responsibility for abuse. Your priesthood leader will help assess your responsibility so that, if needed, it can be addressed.

[_Buffalo]

The Lord may prompt a victim to recognize a degree of responsibility for abuse. Your priesthood leader will help assess your responsibility so that, if needed, it can be addressed.

So sick! The church has a lot to answer for. It has a long victory of blaming and shaming victims of rape. Joseph is just one guy. This thread is offensive, but unlike the church, he can't really hurt anyone.