Does your spouse love Mormonism more than they love you?

[_UnicornMan]

I looked up the Zina Huntington reference.

Sounds like she was required to marry Joseph even though she was married to Henry Jacobs. Hmmm...never knew that. This means she was married to two men then? One temporally, and the other eternally?

Strange...I'm sure that is not practiced in our day, but surely it's a historical fact and not something that would be required of us in this day?

There are times when I think a testimony is as much a problem (liability_ as it is a blessing....if such sacrifices are required of us in this day.

[_Fence Sitter]

I looked up the Zina Huntington reference.

Sounds like she was required to marry Joseph even though she was married to Henry Jacobs. Hmmm...never knew that. This means she was married to two men then? One temporally, and the other eternally?

Strange...I'm sure that is not practiced in our day, but surely it's a historical fact and not something that would be required of us in this day?

There are times when I think a testimony is as much a problem (liability_ as it is a blessing....if such sacrifices are required of us in this day.

According to Compton 11 of Joseph Smith's 33 known wives were already married when he married them. Not only was Zina already married to Henry Jacobs, but after Joseph Smith died Brigham Young required Henry to give Zina to him.

Zina and Henry lived together as husband and wife until the Mormon pioneers reached Mt. Pisgah, Iowa. At this temporary stop on the pioneer trail, Brigham Young announced that "it was time for men who were walking in other men's shoes to step out of them. Brother Jacobs, the woman you claim for a wife does not belong to you. She is the spiritual wife of brother Joseph, sealed up to him. I am his proxy, and she, in this behalf, with her children, are my property. You can go where you please, and get another, but be sure to get one of your own kindred spirit" (Hall 1853, 43-44). President Young then called Jacobs on a mission to England. Witnesses to his departure commented that he was so emotionally ill they had to "put him on a blanket and carry him to the boat to get him on his way".
("Short Sketch of the Life of Henry B. Jacobs" By Ora J. Cannon)

Henry was still in love with Zina.

Henry returned from his mission and settled in California. But he was still in love with his wife Zina, now a plural wife of Brigham Young. Henry's letters to his wife Zina were heartrending. On 2 September 1852 he wrote: "O how happy I should be if I only could see you and the little children, bone of my bone, flesh of my flesh." "I am unhappy," Henry lamented, "there is no peace for poor me, my pleasure is you, my comfort has vanished.... O Zina, can I ever, will I ever get you again, answer the question please." In an undated Valentine he added:

Zina my mind never will change from Worlds without Ends, no never, the same affection is there and never can be moved I do not murmur nor complain of the handlings of God no verily, no but I feel alone and no one to speak to, to call my own. I feel like a lamb without a mother, I do not blame any person or persons, no--May the Lord our Father bless Brother Brigham and all purtains unto him forever. Tell him for me I have no feelings against him nor never had, all is right according to the Law of the Celestial Kingdom of our god Joseph [Smith]." ("Short Sketch of the Life of Henry B. Jacobs" By Ora J. Cannon)

[_Yoda]

Brigham Young was a sick, tyrranical jerk. (I have more colorful names, but they are not appropriate for the Celestial Forum)

There is no reason why he couldn't have left well enough alone. Joseph obviously had no problem with Zina and Henry living together. And, for BY to say that Zina and her children were his property is preposterous!

How, exactly can he claim children that are not his?

This is one of the most tragic stories involving polygamy in Church history.

[_ludwigm]

Brigham Young was a sick, tyrranical jerk. (I have more colorful names, but they are not appropriate for the Celestial Forum)

There is no reason why he couldn't have left well enough alone. Joseph obviously had no problem with Zina and Henry living together. And, for BY to say that Zina and her children were his property is preposterous!

How, exactly can he claim children that are not his?

This is one of the most tragic stories involving polygamy in Church history.

Are the words copulate and copulation appropriate words for the Celestial Forum?

The polygamy is all about these words. Only.

Robert Merle's "Virility Factor" says somewhere: "You, men, want one c_ of all of the women, so you can f_ them all at once"
Apparently, Merle DID know JS and BY. Or similar types.

[_Yoda]

Brigham Young was a sick, tyrranical jerk. (I have more colorful names, but they are not appropriate for the Celestial Forum)

There is no reason why he couldn't have left well enough alone. Joseph obviously had no problem with Zina and Henry living together. And, for BY to say that Zina and her children were his property is preposterous!

How, exactly can he claim children that are not his?

This is one of the most tragic stories involving polygamy in Church history.

Are the words copulate and copulation appropriate words for the Celestial Forum?

The polygamy is all about these words. Only.

Robert Merle's "Virility Factor" says somewhere: "You, men, want one c_ of all of the women, so you can f_ them all at once"
Apparently, Merle DID know JS and BY. Or similar types.

LOL! Nice deduction, Ludwigm! :-)

[_ludwigm]

Robert Merle's "Virility Factor" says somewhere: "You, men, want one c_ of all of the women, so you can f_ them all at once"
Apparently, Merle DID know JS and BY. Or similar types.

LOL! Nice deduction, Ludwigm! :-)

History repeats itself. If we don't perceive it is our own fault.