Does the "no afterlife" ever scare you?

[_Nightlion]

...the Lord was NOT in any defiled temple.

Why is God so picky? Does he fly down from the stratosphere on his chariot, pulled by flaming cheribums, park in the driveway to the Provo temple, and give the place a tour? Does he go into the locker room, change into his whites, take a name slip, and head up the escalator to the waiting chapel? Does he look around at the other people in there (including all the nice BYU couples) and sneer in disgust at the defilement? Does he walk with the good brothers and sisters to the movie room then stop short at the doorway, with a wrinkled nose, having been offended by the putrid defilement waiting inside the room? Where did the defilement come from? Did they decorate the room incorrectly?

Sometimes I wonder what God thinks about all our attempts to describe his druthers.

If you must know. The purpose of a temple is primarily for a place where God's power and presence will be manifested. In the days of the Tabernacle God would take up a place above the ark when revealing to Moses.

D&C 97: 15
15 And inasmuch as my people build a house unto me in the name of the Lord, and do not suffer any unclean thing to come into it, that it be not defiled, my glory shall rest upon it;

This is how the Kirtland Temple began and was quickly defiled by the unclean and so no more glory was found upon it.

As far as I am aware the glory of the Lord has never rested upon any other temple for any length of time. Period. Way to many defiling the temple for filthy lucre and the graft of sustaining votes for those who keep the bribes.


D&C 94: 8-9
8 And ye shall not suffer any unclean thing to come in unto it; and my glory shall be there, and my presence shall be there.
9 But if there shall come into it any unclean thing, my glory shall not be there; and my presence shall not come into it.


By clean the Lord exclusively means all those who have truly received the power of the gospel in the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost. That's it. Nothing more and nothing less. Everything else, tithing, sustaining votes living within your means, being honest, chaste, comes of evil when the BFHG is omitted, and such defiles the House of the Lord. AMEN.

ETA: Note in the first scripture where the Lord says; "build a house unto me in the name of the Lord" This would mean that all those who labor upon the temple should also be IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, or have the name of Christ put upon them by the power of the gospel which again is the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost. Zion must be built up in this way. Otherwise the Lord cannot receive it unto himself. A city truly built up unto the Lord by those who have the name of the Lord put upon them would be terrible unto all nations. Yeah, come Zion soon.

[Guest]

But no, death is part of life. Trillions of other animals have done it before me. It's not a big deal.

yes, but how many of those trillions upon trillions upon trillions of animals could spend their whole lives contemplating their own impending doom? IN FACT, 75% of all humans that have ever lived have yet to experience this thing called "Death" We are in the minority here.

[_quark]

Of course its scary, to be here one moment then ripped into nothingness never to be again. The only thing I've ever been told is try to compare it to before you were born. You did not exist at all in any form at that point, have no memory of before that and never will. Maybe that makes it more comforting to you, it only helps me a little when I sit up late at night pondering my own existence.

This is great! Thanks Ms. thin among the wheat.

[_WheatThins]

Of course its scary, to be here one moment then ripped into nothingness never to be again. The only thing I've ever been told is try to compare it to before you were born. You did not exist at all in any form at that point, have no memory of before that and never will. Maybe that makes it more comforting to you, it only helps me a little when I sit up late at night pondering my own existence.

This is great! Thanks Ms. thin among the wheat.

actually its Mr. wheatthins...

[_Cardinal Biggles]

I'd be less fearful if I were more certain that consciousness did not continue after death. I sometimes have an Edgar Allen Poe-esque view of things. What if some level of consciousness, undetectable by EEGs, continues in the brain after clinical death (the medical definition of death has been subject to change), and I die with my brain intact? What if I am aware of decades of time passing while I slowly rot away, paralyzed, blind, deaf, slowly losing the ability to comprehend my significantly impaired existence?

The thought of being conscious of my own cremation or embalming isn't any better.

I had a major surgery when I was younger, and the use of powerful anesthesia made me completely unaware of the events that transpired while I was on the surgeon's table for hours. But who is to say that death is going to be like that?

Of course, none of us have any awareness of the time before we were born--not even the time we spent in utero. So maybe death will be like that.

[_quark]

actually its Mr. wheatthins...

I know... I was just thinking of that picture....

[_WheatThins]

actually its Mr. wheatthins...

I know... I was just thinking of that picture....

[_Some Schmo]

But no, death is part of life. Trillions of other animals have done it before me. It's not a big deal.

yes, but how many of those trillions upon trillions upon trillions of animals could spend their whole lives contemplating their own impending doom? IN FACT, 75% of all humans that have ever lived have yet to experience this thing called "Death" We are in the minority here.

The contemplation of our own doom is a big part of what's driven us to make up the fantasy of an afterlife in the first place.

Don't get me wrong; I understand why people cling to the fantasy. I just think that there's little point in worrying about something (death, that is) that's as natural as life.

[_Yoda]

This is how the Kirtland Temple began and was quickly defiled by the unclean and so no more glory was found upon it.

Nightlion, can you explain this in more detail? How was the Kirtland Temple defiled, and who are the unclean who defiled it?

[_sock puppet]

This is how the Kirtland Temple began and was quickly defiled by the unclean and so no more glory was found upon it.

Nightlion, can you explain this in more detail? How was the Kirtland Temple defiled, and who are the unclean who defiled it?

In a similar vein, did JSJr decommission the Kirtland Temple as any type of Mormon holy ground before they left Ohio?