just me wrote: Blixa is currently over on another thread saying that the reports of rapes during MMM are not deemed by historians to be true or accurate. She does that frequently. She is respectful even when she points out problems with the LDS doctrines or practices.
And why not if a critic got it wrong? But I would like to see her begin a thread that is prolds.
No one has said she shouldn't they are saying you are wrong that Blixa doesn't defend against critics
just me wrote: Exactly. I am also amazed at the shifting of the complaint. First the problem is that critics name call and sling poo...now it is that they need to start proLDS threads. It is ridiculous.
Yep everyone should be pro-LDS and extoll it's wonderfulness.
why me wrote:But she is certainly not prolds.
why me wrote: But I would like to see her begin a thread that is prolds.
just me wrote:ETA: And if we are gonna talk about fair I don't think that many of the defenders can claim that they are always fair to the critics or the critical POV.
why me wrote:As strange as this may seem, Blixa and I might actually know each other. Not now but in the past. This would depend if she was in New York in the late 70's and in the early 80's. I wouldn't be surprised if we crossed paths.
Did you live in a squat in Alphabet City? Hang out at Save the Robots or A7? Dodge the cops while spray painting graffiti through the West Side piers?
From the Ernest L. Wilkinson Diaries: "ELW dreams he's spattered w/ grease. Hundreds steal his greasy pants."
Runtu wrote: I try to be as fair as possible in my discussions of the church.
I did the same, attended all meetings of the church. There is a Hungarian saying: Hear and see much, say little. (Sokat hallj, láss, keveset szólj.)
Runtu wrote:But being fair doesn't mean I force myself to be positive all the time.
After six years I became less positive, said enough is enough, and left.
I've heard and seen too much.
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
Blixa wrote: Did you live in a squat in Alphabet City? Hang out at Save the Robots or A7? Dodge the cops while spray painting graffiti through the West Side piers?
Outside of church events, you could have found me in the strand book store hanging out in the literature section. Or taking part in the no to the neutron bomb demonstration or in washington square park watching the chess players or at the jefferson bookshop at union square. And taking part in the may day march at union square.
But I did enjoy your art on the west side. And also in the subway.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
just me wrote:Although I do love liz and consig A LOT.
The feeling is mutual, I assure you.
I like you too...lets all give each other a group hug!
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
consiglieri wrote:The feeling is mutual, I assure you.
I like you too...lets all give each other a group hug!
No.
"Others cannot endure their own littleness unless they can translate it into meaningfulness on the largest possible level." ~ Ernest Becker "Whether you think of it as heavenly or as earthly, if you love life immortality is no consolation for death." ~ Simone de Beauvoir
why me wrote:As strange as this may seem, Blixa and I might actually know each other. Not now but in the past. This would depend if she was in New York in the late 70's and in the early 80's. I wouldn't be surprised if we crossed paths.
Did you live in a squat in Alphabet City? Hang out at Save the Robots or A7? Dodge the cops while spray painting graffiti through the West Side piers?
No, you haven't. In fact, my skin is pretty thick. I don't take it all personally. But many of the defenders don't have thick skins. They leave. I think that when critics begin to insult defenders, the moderators should step in to cool down the personal name callings etc. Maybe this would get the defenders to stay a little longer.
It may surprise you to learn that you aren't the lone voice here. I discussed this issue for two solid weeks. Thanks for noticing the effort I made and the time I invested in doing so.
Not.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb