Patriarchal Blessings?

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Re: Patriarchal Blessings?

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Ceeboo wrote:Zeeeezer :smile:

zeezrom wrote:I think it's bad for people who tend to take religious authority seriously. I was going to say just authority but I threw the word religious in there... not really sure why.


Perhaps it is due to an experience you have had with past "religious authority?"

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The thing is, my experiences with church authorities weren't much different than that of any other Mormon. I think it has more to do with my interpretation of religious authority and internalization of teachings.
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Ceeboo,

You may find this old thread on NOM of interest. A wide range of views are represented about patriarchal blessings from appreciative to skeptical.

NOM Thread

Unlike others here, I had a deeply spiritual experience when I received my patriarchal blessing and while I see it differently today I don't feel to negate the experience. It may have been the closest I've ever felt to my parents as a teenager when they came to the blessing with me. I was 18, was a senior in high school, but had signed my papers to go to basic training as soon as I graduated when I got mine. Like Zeez, I went through a period of repentance before hand, but not in any traumatizing way. There were many points in my life when it served as an anchor, especially when I was a missionary and may have been in a low point. Mumbo jumbo or sacred communication from the divine - neither describe it in a way I would comfortably agree with today.

I'm curious about blessing rituals within Catholicism. Have you ever received a blessing of any kind?
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Re: Patriarchal Blessings?

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Hey honor :smile:

Great to see you on the board. I always enjoy reading your contributions.

honorentheos wrote:Ceeboo,

You may find this old thread on NOM of interest. A wide range of views are represented about patriarchal blessings from appreciative to skeptical.

NOM Thread


Thanks, I'll check it out!

Unlike others here, I had a deeply spiritual experience when I received my patriarchal blessing and while I see it differently today I don't feel to negate the experience. It may have been the closest I've ever felt to my parents as a teenager when they came to the blessing with me. I was 18, was a senior in high school, but had signed my papers to go to basic training as soon as I graduated when I got mine. Like Zeez, I went through a period of repentance before hand, but not in any traumatizing way. There were many points in my life when it served as an anchor, especially when I was a missionary and may have been in a low point.


Interesting! Thanks for adding your experience/perspective to the thread!

Mumbo jumbo or sacred communication from the divine - neither describe it in a way I would comfortably agree with today.


Well, being that it is "today", how would and/or do you describe it?

I'm curious about blessing rituals within Catholicism. Have you ever received a blessing of any kind?


Yes, I have had items blessed by a Priest (Bible, Cross, wedding ring).

As far as I know (I could be wrong) I have never heard of anything that would be similar to a LDS Patriarchal blessing being done or performed by a Priest/Bishop/Cardinal/Pope within Catholicism. Again, and to be fair, I could be wrong.

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Also wondering about something else as this thread moves along.

What percentage of LDS people have had a PB? (From something I read earlier in this thread - about being worthy to receive one - I am thinking that a TR usually = a PB. Yes? Or am I showing off my ignorance.......Again! :smile: )

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Ceeboo wrote:Hey honor :smile:

Great to see you on the board. I always enjoy reading your contributions.

Likewise, thank you.

Mumbo jumbo or sacred communication from the divine - neither describe it in a way I would comfortably agree with today.


Well, being that it is "today", how would and/or do you describe it?

I said this in another thread, but I'll share it again here because it explains things better than I could with my own words:

William Desmond - "When I am in Love, I sing the beloved. When I analyze and ask if I am in Love, I am no longer in Love....We search for clarity against ambiguity, but the search for clarity is itself ambigious, so it drags it's own lack of clarity with itself, lack of clarity about itself."

The not-so-easy answer is I am ambiguous regarding how I'd explain it. While I don't see the hand of an external divine other that has it's own circumscribed identity playing a role in this, I do see something that was bigger than just myself, the stake patriarch, and my parents who were all present at the time. In the NOM thread I linked to, one of the posters has a quote by His Holiness the Dalai Lama for their signature that I happen to enjoy:

"We can live without religion and meditation, but we cannot survive without human affection."

Whatever it is, I try to keep as much of it in my life as I can get.

I'm curious about blessing rituals within Catholicism. Have you ever received a blessing of any kind?


Yes, I have had items blessed by a Priest (Bible, Cross, wedding ring).

If you don't mind my asking, could you explain the significance blessing this objects has or had for you? I'm interested.

As far as I know (I could be wrong) I have never heard of anything that would be similar to a LDS Patriarchal blessing being done or performed by a Priest/Bishop/Cardinal/Pope within Catholicism. Again, and to be fair, I could be wrong.

One thing I realize I appreciated in Mormonism was the concept of blessing. My father would frequently give us "father's blessings" which were some of the most honest, loving communications he ever gave me. As a missionary, we often blessed one another when we felt a need or someone was having a hard time. While serving in the Bishopric some of my best memories are of being called to a member's home to give them a blessing. In the ward I grew up in, when ordained an Elder we'd often be asked to go to the local hospital and give blessings to people we didn't know who asked for them. While I don't see the priesthood the same way today, I do think the interaction between all of us involved on these occasions touched something "divine" or higher than the mundane of everyday life. It was a good practice, in my opinion.

So, a second question - setting aside patriarchal blessings or their exact equivalents, are there other types of blessings you've been a part of? Or anything that might not be called a blessing but might be similar to what I described above?

Thank you in advance for your consideration. I appreciate hearing about other's experiences. It helps broaden and deepen my own.
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