Trump tried to fire Mueller in June

[_Jersey Girl]

Can he ever become a real President in the way that this country requires? Is he putting an indelible mark on the office that will take us years beyond his term of office to overcome?

Does anyone think that a 2020 Biden-Sanders ticket could stop this trajectory in it's tracks?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Can he ever become a real President in the way that this country requires? Is he putting an indelible mark on the office that will take us years beyond his term of office to overcome?

Does anyone think that a 2020 Biden-Sanders ticket could stop this trajectory in it's tracks?

Not if the stock market keeps farting out new records. When the economy is humming the President gets re-elected. I mean. I just typed that. I have no idea if that's the truth or not.

- Doc

[_Res Ipsa]

Can he ever become a real President in the way that this country requires? Is he putting an indelible mark on the office that will take us years beyond his term of office to overcome?

Does anyone think that a 2020 Biden-Sanders ticket could stop this trajectory in it's tracks?

I doubt it. We’re talking old, old dog having to learn many, many new tricks. The behavior that is causing his problems is so much a part of who he is, I just don’t see him changing it. Do you think he sees his behavior as the problem? If the answer is no, why would even try to change it.

Hard to say. I think it depends heavily on what the next president does.

No. Trump is as much a symptom as he is a problem. No president can fix the underlying problems.

[_EAllusion]

Foreign Policy has an article up with sources claiming that Trump's team devised a public campaign in June to discredit several of the FBI's top leaders who he was informed would likely have to testify against him at some point in the future. This is a story that seemed quite apparent from the outside, but it is the first example of confirmation that it was happening from the inside.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/01/26/tru ... ign=buffer

[_EAllusion]

Can he ever become a real President in the way that this country requires? Is he putting an indelible mark on the office that will take us years beyond his term of office to overcome?

Does anyone think that a 2020 Biden-Sanders ticket could stop this trajectory in it's tracks?

Not if the stock market keeps farting out new records. When the economy is humming the President gets re-elected. I mean. I just typed that. I have no idea if that's the truth or not.

- Doc

I'm not sure how much the stock market matters. It's the underlying economy. That's been solid, but not nearly as good as the recent stock surge would suggest. I think Trump is an evenish shot to win in 2020 if current conditions prevail and I don't think it much matters who his opponent is. Unless it is a very close race, individual candidate differences don't matter much.

Biden just about the worst possible candidate I think Democrats could run from a perspective of who'd you actually want to be President. He's the Democrats' worst tendencies of the 80's and 90's personified. On the plus side, he's historically been a weak national candidate and has lost primary attempts multiple times.

Within the margin where it matters, I can't tell if Sanders would be a strong or weak candidate this time around. His age normally would be terrifying, but Trump being Trump probably nullifies that. The fact that he's been running so long probably makes him more vulnerable to the right-wing attack machine than a candidate that doesn't have a strong national profile yet like a Duckworth. It's hard to underestimate what a big deal it is to run with that anchor attached to you.

[_MeDotOrg]

This is June. Mueller was hired in May. So he can't investigate Trump because of a issue with his membership at a Trump Country Club. Presumably Mueller has been has been waiting for the off-chance that Donald Trump would be elected President and Mueller would be appointed a Special Prosecutor to investigate him.
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Mueller also interviewed for FBI position, why do you conveniently omit facts in favor of presupposition? Either way, you don't get to accuse Trump of being an unreasonable person and then claim his actions as being "reasonable" for an excuse to condemn.

Yes, there were 3 arguments made to justify the firing of Mueller.

1. Mueller had quit Trump's Country Club.
2. Mueller had interviewed for the FBI position.
3. Mueller's law firm had done work for Jared Kushner.

I'm not sure you're going to find a lot of lawyers who will say those are legitimate grounds. The actual adjective I've heard more than once is 'pretextual'.