NEED A TRANSPLANT? BETTER GET VACCINATED

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

My SIL's brother just passed due to Covid. He was very typical of the right-wing crowd posting antivaccine stuff on his Facebook page. One of his last posts was from the hospital wishing he would've taken the vaccine.

Not a pretty death for him.

- Doc

I'm very sorry to read this. Condolences.

Yeah, I didn’t know the guy, but it’s sad when reality dawns on them in the hospital.

So. This is serious. Very. I came to the hospital with an oxy sat level of about 60. As many of you know, that is near coma, and brain damage.

I had no idea I'd be reacting this way, I'd taken the dang vaccine months ago, I just wish they'd drop all the riggamaroll with it all.

Prayers are always requested and accepted. It might be more than a month ask for me.

Shout out to st. Mark's hospital.

That was the 4th, and he passed on the 8th. Here’s one of the prayers in the comments section under his post:

Father God we lift Ed up to you in prayer. Please touch his body with the healing blood of Jesus Christ and heal him from the top of his head to the tips of his toes. Make him healthy and whole in the name of Jesus. You know his needs Father God. Please meet his needs and draw him close to you. We pray this in the name of Jesus. Amen.

The post by his daughter is absolutely heartbreaking. She lost her ‘daddy’ and ‘best friend’. So sad that all the bs online influenced his decision against vaccination.

- Doc

[Moksha]

Has Facebook done irreparable damage to the reptilian brainstems of regressives, making them forever susceptible to the nonsense spouted by any megalomaniacal psychopathic wannabe dictators?

[Jersey Girl]

That was the 4th, and he passed on the 8th. Here’s one of the prayers in the comments section under his post:

Father God we lift Ed up to you in prayer. Please touch his body with the healing blood of Jesus Christ and heal him from the top of his head to the tips of his toes. Make him healthy and whole in the name of Jesus. You know his needs Father God. Please meet his needs and draw him close to you. We pray this in the name of Jesus. Amen.

The post by his daughter is absolutely heartbreaking. She lost her ‘daddy’ and ‘best friend’. So sad that all the bs online influenced his decision against vaccination.

- Doc

I feel it would be disrespectful of me to repost the image for the purpose of reply, since I don't know this man and you know the family, so I won't. I feel horrible reading this and of course, it's not the first story I've read or known about since our friend's wife passed for the same reasons. It raises so many emotions not the least of which is anger. Anger because I think these deaths could have been prevented and for the cost, if you will, of a moment's jab and then another,social distancing, and a lightweight mask, people wouldn't be left to grieve the loss of their loved ones. It just makes me feel like a life was wasted for no good reason.

I have to say this and I promise you that I mean no disrespect, but where the prayer expresses that Father God knew his needs, I believe it as well. I just believe that the need was fulfilled by the development of the vaccines.

I just don't know what is right to think about this. It is gut wrenching and I don't want to be critical because I know that people are in pain and suffering their losses. I just can't get past the feeling that it could have been prevented and the answer was right there for the taking.

Quite frankly, it makes me want to hit something. But I know the right thing to do is lend support to those who grieve and for me, to pray that they will feel supported.

It is SO damn hard.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Has Facebook done irreparable damage to the reptilian brainstems of regressives, making them forever susceptible to the nonsense spouted by any megalomaniacal psychopathic wannabe dictators?

It’s sadly funny you say that, the guy’s Facebook posts in the run-up to the election contained antivaxx conspiracy theories touching on depopulation and using the pandemic to win the election.

- Doc

[Chap]

"I had no idea I'd be reacting this way, I'd taken the dang vaccine months ago, I just wish they'd drop all the riggamaroll with it all."

The poor man seems to have suggested that what he calls "all the riggamaroll with it all" somehow prevented him getting vaccinated. I am asking quite seriously, and without any attempt to mock - what could he have meant by this? I mean you just have to turn up, get vaccinated, and that's it, surely? Does the US have any formalities for verifying identity or entitlement before vaccination that someone might reasonably view as degrading or intrusive?

[Jersey Girl]

"I had no idea I'd be reacting this way, I'd taken the dang vaccine months ago, I just wish they'd drop all the riggamaroll with it all."

The poor man seems to have suggested that what he calls "all the riggamaroll with it all" somehow prevented him getting vaccinated. I am asking quite seriously, and without any attempt to mock - what could he have meant by this? I mean you just have to turn up, get vaccinated, and that's it, surely? Does the US have any formalities for verifying identity or entitlement before vaccination that someone might reasonably view as degrading or intrusive?

Chap you schedule in at a pharmacy or I suppose a drive through clinic or hospital. You show your driver's license (we carry them on our person here), health insurance card, and you fill out some forms. The intake forms are the same as you get with any vaccination. Health history, informed consent (side effects), read, sign off, roll up your sleeve, and you get vaccinated.

I got my vaccinations at a large chain grocery store called Safeway. They gave me a 10% off coupon on groceries afterwards. Walmart and every other pharmacy I can think of offers vaccinations. It's EASY and uncomplicated. No, it's not intrusive or degrading.

I've got email notification right now from the store that boosters are available, I just schedule, drive oh, 15 minutes to that store and it's over.

I can't verify this but I have read that some places aren't even asking for ID.

ETA: I forget to say that there are mobile clinics and people going door to door in some areas to vaccinate.

[Chap]

"I had no idea I'd be reacting this way, I'd taken the dang vaccine months ago, I just wish they'd drop all the riggamaroll with it all."

The poor man seems to have suggested that what he calls "all the riggamaroll with it all" somehow prevented him getting vaccinated. I am asking quite seriously, and without any attempt to mock - what could he have meant by this? I mean you just have to turn up, get vaccinated, and that's it, surely? Does the US have any formalities for verifying identity or entitlement before vaccination that someone might reasonably view as degrading or intrusive?

Chap you schedule in at a pharmacy or I suppose a drive through clinic or hospital. You show your driver's license (we carry them on our person here), health insurance card, and you fill out some forms. The intake forms are the same as you get with any vaccination. Health history, informed consent (side effects), read, sign off, roll up your sleeve, and you get vaccinated.

I got my vaccinations at a large chain grocery store called Safeway. They gave me a 10% off coupon on groceries afterwards. Walmart and every other pharmacy I can think of offers vaccinations. It's EASY and uncomplicated. No, it's not intrusive or degrading.

I've got email notification right now from the store that boosters are available, I just schedule, drive oh, 15 minutes to that store and it's over.

I can't verify this but I have read that some places aren't even asking for ID.

ETA: I forget to say that there are mobile clinics and people going door to door in some areas to vaccinate.

Your answer is more or less what I expected, and, allowing for obvious differences, it is comparable with what I have encountered in other countries.

So even as he must have known that the end of life might be near, this poor guy was still pretending to himself that the whole disaster was really the fault of 'them' out there and their wicked 'riggamaroll', whatever he thought that was. I suppose it was a understandable stratagem for preserving some self-respect and avoiding having to admit that he was at risk of death because he took bad decisions on his own responsibility. One should direct one's rage at the people who base their high-earning career on feeding lies to people like this poor guy. He and his grieving family deserve our pity.

[Xenophon]

I'm very sorry to hear that, DocCam. Always tragic.

The poor man seems to have suggested that what he calls "all the riggamaroll with it all" somehow prevented him getting vaccinated. I am asking quite seriously, and without any attempt to mock - what could he have meant by this? I mean you just have to turn up, get vaccinated, and that's it, surely? Does the US have any formalities for verifying identity or entitlement before vaccination that someone might reasonably view as degrading or intrusive?

I doubt very highly he is referring to the process and mechanics related to the administration of the actual vaccine to an individual.

Based on several friends who were very vaccine resistant to start and later expressed similar sentiments after getting theirs, I'd suspect he is referring to what he views as the politicalization of the shot.

I have had it suggested to me that if "Biden/media/liberals weren't shoving it down their throat" and making it a "battle over freedom" they would have gotten it sooner. They in some ways felt obligated to resist based on their perception of the poltical environment around the vaccine. Obviously I don't agree with their take but this is the battle we are fighting. The harder we press the more some feel they have to fight back. The only hope is that by the time the light turns on it isn't too late.

[Chap]

I'm very sorry to hear that, DocCam. Always tragic.

The poor man seems to have suggested that what he calls "all the riggamaroll with it all" somehow prevented him getting vaccinated. I am asking quite seriously, and without any attempt to mock - what could he have meant by this? I mean you just have to turn up, get vaccinated, and that's it, surely? Does the US have any formalities for verifying identity or entitlement before vaccination that someone might reasonably view as degrading or intrusive?

I doubt very highly he is referring to the process and mechanics related to the administration of the actual vaccine to an individual.

Based on several friends who were very vaccine resistant to start and later expressed similar sentiments after getting theirs, I'd suspect he is referring to what he views as the politicalization of the shot.

I have had it suggested to me that if "Biden/media/liberals weren't shoving it down their throat" and making it a "battle over freedom" they would have gotten it sooner. They in some ways felt obligated to resist based on their perception of the poltical environment around the vaccine. Obviously I don't agree with their take but this is the battle we are fighting. The harder we press the more some feel they have to fight back. The only hope is that by the time the light turns on it isn't too late.

So - is there nothing one can do to help these people stay alive?

[Xenophon]

So - is there nothing one can do to help these people stay alive?

I have a pretty strong working theory that not one single human being was ever convinced of anything they didn't already want to be convinced of, so in some ways "not really".

Outside of that the only productive work I've done on this front is
either trying to have very candid but cordial conversations where I do my best to keep the conversation centered on individuals personal desire for things like; seeing their grandchildren grow old, protecting their parents, travelling hastle free, and things of that nature.

Or in asking them about their family doctor. Personally I love our general practitioner and I've found lots of other people do to. I always suggest that they ask this doctor, a person they have often trusted for years, what their opinion on the vaccine is. It's a gamble since we've seen a few doctors don't support the vaccine but it is a numbers game that you may have to play. This tactic was the final checkmark for my own father who was initially very hesitant.

It is tragic but I think scenarios like DocCam's above are highly instructive as well. I've seen more than a few premature deaths push friends and family to finally get the shot. It's so sad it has to come to that but I suppose there is some solace that these deaths aren't totally meaningless.