marg wrote: Go read another NDE story, that you've been reading for the last 30 years. Maybe you'll learn something new with that open mind of yours, so open that brain matter seems to be falling out. I know maybe your consciousness is escaping while you are alive, it's not waiting until you die.
I may be going to hell in a bucket, babe / But at least I'm enjoying the ride.
-Grateful Dead (lyrics by John Perry Barlow)
marg wrote: Go read another NDE story, that you've been reading for the last 30 years. Maybe you'll learn something new with that open mind of yours, so open that brain matter seems to be falling out. I know maybe your consciousness is escaping while you are alive, it's not waiting until you die.
I'm only going by what Ray believes, maybe he's onto something. Maybe he's living proof the brain can escape the physical body. Finally some concrete evidence. And he claims I'm not open minded to the notion out of body consciousness.
marg wrote:Yes, the answer is Dale, enjoys preferential treatment due to poor health, along with his expertise which is of value to the issues presented in the thread.
I do not want him wasting time replying to unwarranted cheap shots thrown his way.
The first time I ignored it by Mikwut, and Dale responded . Then more posts from others ensued related to the ad hom.
So I chose to nip it in the bud so to speak and ask Mikwut to refrain.
Sure there are other ad homs in there but on the whole it's not excessive and not disruptive. There are also superfluous posts in there but again, I'm letting those stay as long as they aren't too disruptive.
My goal is to allow the discussion to progress with as little disruption vis moderation or from posters as possible, and without unwarranted attacks on individuals with Dale getting preferential treatment to an extent due to special circumstances noted above.
And I would like to add further that all moderation requires preferential treatment, that is what moderation is.
Moderation is "preferential treatment" to someone or some issue. Good moderation protects the discussion ultimately from being hindered, while poor moderation protects a biased position. The words in context of moderation "preferential treatment" are not unforgivable. If someone chooses to perceive them that way that is their choice. In the context of moderation ..bias to protect a position at the expense of the counter position is what intellectually honest individuals do not want or do.
So if I change Danny boy --to Daniel, the intent is preferential treatment to Daniel and the quality of the thread to keep it free of unnecessary slurs.
If I remove 3 smilies from whyme's post, yet not move his post, I'm giving preferential treatment to Shades and his personal rules and to whyme for attempting to not irritate him with moving of post.
If I move posts to off topic thread set up for that purpose, I'm giving preferential treatment to the issue under consideration so that it can move forward unhindered, and/or non relevant clutter type posts removed.
If I give a warning to mikwut to refrain from unwarranted ad homs against Dale I'm giving preferential treatment to the issues to keep it from potential derailment, giving preferential treatment to Dale so as to not waste his time addressing ad homs, his health being an issue to the extent that energy wasted on addressing unnecessary posts, may in fact hinder progress of issues.
Moderation is in fact preferential treatment to someone - some issue. Only no moderation gives no preferential treatment whatsoever.
Any mod action can be viewed by someone as bias. At issue is whether any mod action is ever done so as to hinder progress of the issue being argued for or against.
Jersey Girl wrote:Jersey Girl: I recommend any one read the Pearl Curran thread and judge for themselves.
Ray: I have never advocated the compelete NONSENSE that you do in supporting any kind of "biblical flood". Limited or worldwide. You must have a penchant for MYTH.
So don't lecture me about what "real scientists" are investigating. You can be sure they aren't investigating whether a man can feed five thousand people with five fishes.
Jersey Girl New: What exchanges with me are you referring to in the bolded comments above, Ray?
Does anybody really care?
Announcement: This is a message board. It's called "Mormon Discussions". Can we now have some discussions about Mormonism? > > >
Sure. We can have some discussions about Mormonism just as soon as we're done discussing bias, NDE's, the Pearl Curran thread and your evasive responses to the question I posed to you multiple times regarding your post above. All of which, you yourself brought into this discussion.
I've already established that your assertions regarding my position on the flood are false.
Now, why did you caution me against lecturing you about what "real scientists" are investigating?
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb