Darth J wrote: So what does the cognate accusative look like?
Ch. X, pp. 37
15. So they pushed forward to the strong hold, and drove the men of Britain before them like sheep, and smote them hip and thigh with great slaughter; and Brock, their chief captain, was among the slain.
Moroni 4:21
And when they had come the second time, the Nephites were driven and slaughtered with an exceedingly great slaughter; their women and their children were again sacrificed unto idols.
Note also "drove the men of Britain before them like sheep/the Nephites were driven" to their eventual "great slaughter."
palerobber wrote:also too, monkeys could fly out of your butt, despite people here operating under the assumption that this would be impossible.
The difference is that is patently absurd. Engaging in hyperbole does not help your argument and demonstrates how truly tenuous and desperate you are in clinging to your assumptions. If that is the best you can do, then I have little to worry about. In fact, the existence of these Gold Plates, as claimed, would not be an absurd outcome at all and would explain a great deal about the Book of Mormon.
Oh and...putting a rock, found at the bottom of a well, in your hat to read from plates that are not even present in the room is not absurd? Yup...that is completely rational and makes perfect sense...
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Last time I looked, he had not gone off to the MADboard to post strikingly effective counterarguments. In fact nobody seems to be doing that over there, although a relevant thread is on its fourth page.
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From one of the authors of the study (Duane Johnson) at reddit about Manuscript Found (the available version) as a source:
We haven't yet created a tool that compares similarity of all books--what we've written is essentially a ranking algorithm: given book A, show me all books, in sorted order, that are most similar. So naturally we chose the Book of Mormon as "book A" :) We did create similarity rankings for other books such as the Book of Nullification and the Chronicles of Eri. Same with View of the Hebrews and Manuscript Found. I think our most surprising discovery outside of The First Book of Napoleon and "Historical Reader: containing the Late War Between the United States and Great Britain" was that Manuscript Found (Solomon Spalding) is only very weakly connected with the Book of Mormon. In fact, I don't really think it was a source at all--more likely, its author shared a seat in the same lecture hall at university with Ethan Smith or something like that. View of the Hebrews, on the other hand, is a stronger match than Manuscript Found, but still, not anywhere near as strong a match as The Late War.
39 For the savages put forth the burning brand to the houses, from which they could not flee, and burnt them to death therein,
40 And the flames and the smoke arose; and their cries and their groans reached the high chancery of heaven,
41 Where they will stand recorded, until the coming of that day for which all other days were made.
Alma 14
10 And when Amulek saw the pains of the women and children who were consuming in the fire, he also was pained; and he said unto Alma: How can we witness this awful scene? Therefore let us stretch forth our hands, and exercise the power of God which is in us, and save them from the flames.
11 But Alma said unto him: The Spirit constraineth me that I must not stretch forth mine hand; for behold the Lord receiveth them up unto himself, in glory; and he doth suffer that they may do this thing, or that the people may do this thing unto them, according to the hardness of their hearts, that the judgments which he shall exercise upon them in his wrath may be just; and the blood of the innocent shall stand as a witness against them, yea, and cry mightily against them at the last day.
Craig Paxton wrote:Oh and...putting a rock, found at the bottom of a well, in your hat to read from plates that are not even present in the room is not absurd? Yup...that is completely rational and makes perfect sense...
The Book of Mormon was translated by use of the Urim and Thummim. These were seer stones that shown forth with a brilliant light and were to be used covering your face with a veil. Placing them in a hat and covering your face works just as well.
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Craig Paxton wrote:Oh and...putting a rock, found at the bottom of a well, in your hat to read from plates that are not even present in the room is not absurd? Yup...that is completely rational and makes perfect sense...
The Book of Mormon was translated by use of the Urim and Thummim. These were seer stones that shown forth with a brilliant light and were to be used covering your face with a veil. Placing them in a hat and covering your face works just as well.
And howdafuq do you know not only how it works, but specifically how it works compared to putting one's face into a hat? I take it you have some expertise in this matter?
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