Smokey wrote:The only thing in dispute is how much was written in ballpoint pen and by whom.
Which Diary are we talking about? Because there are so many different versions and manuscripts (very common for a young girl’s Diary) you have to be more specific.
More tap dancing. There is no dispute. How many actual diary entries were written in ball point pen. You know the answer.
Irrelevant. Consider all diary entries that are in the handwriting that purports to be Anne Frank’s. How many actual diary entries in that handwriting are in ball point pen?
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
Res Ipsa wrote:Irrelevant. Consider all diary entries that are in the handwriting that purports to be Anne Frank’s. How many actual diary entries in that handwriting are in ball point pen?
Unbelievable. The number of actual Anne Frank Diaries is irrelevant?
I thought there was just one Diary? Now you’re saying there’s multiple versions of this text that contradict each other?
There are more entries in some of the Diary versions than there are in others, so again, which Diary are you talking about?
Smokey wrote:Unbelievable. The number of actual Anne Frank Diaries is irrelevant?
Still waiting for Smokey to try to explain what the effect of Anne Frank’s diary - be there one or ten of them - is on Hitler’s legacy and the actions + policies of Nazi Germany.
Res Ipsa wrote:Irrelevant. Consider all diary entries that are in the handwriting that purports to be Anne Frank’s. How many actual diary entries in that handwriting are in ball point pen?
Unbelievable. The number of actual Anne Frank Diaries is irrelevant?
I thought there was just one Diary? Now you’re saying there’s multiple versions of this text that contradict each other?
There are more entries in some of the Diary versions than there are in others, so again, which Diary are you talking about?
The number of versions is irrelevant to the ball point pen issue. I know you desperately don’t want to answer my question, but I’m not letting you avoid the question by changing the subject. I’ll be happy to discuss anything you want about Anne Frank’s diary, but only one issue at a time.
Holocaust deniers have been yammering about this ball point pen issue for almost 40 years. Surely you can point me to at least one diary entry in what is claimed to be Anne Frank’s handwriting that was written in ball point pen. Just one.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
Res Ipsa wrote: The number of versions is irrelevant to the ball point pen issue.
You can say something you don’t like is irrelevant all you want.
Which version of the Diary is the one that is supposed to be written by Anne Frank? The one that says the grocer who smuggled her family 20 lbs of peas was a male, or the one that says it was a female?
Surely you can point me to at least one diary entry in what is claimed to be Anne Frank’s handwriting that was written in ball point pen. Just one.
Depends on what version of the Diary you are looking at, Boomer.
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