MG & JLHPROF: From Whence Come Spiritual Experiences?

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Re: MG & JLHPROF: From Whence Come Spiritual Experiences?

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Then Shades needs to cut out Mental's disruptive comments on all the other threads he participated in. I can make suggestions as to where.
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Re: MG & JLHPROF: From Whence Come Spiritual Experiences?

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mentalgymnast wrote:
No. A fraudulent financial claim does not lead towards a greater good and does harm.

I think I know where you're headed with this. :wink:

Regards,
MG


Then you would know why your faith is not a positive trait. All you can argue is it is not terrible if it leads one to do no harm or even do good things. The problem is this faith is blind in that you don't have enough available evidence that the faith is in something that is true. This is not a positive trait. The trait is being gullible, and all you can hope for is that you guessed right, or if wrong, it doesn't do any real harm. The positive trait is someone who understands this and insists on better evidence before exercising faith in something. I don't exercise a lot of faith in a new friend until I have more evidence for that faith to grow.
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Re: MG & JLHPROF: From Whence Come Spiritual Experiences?

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Themis wrote:
mentalgymnast wrote:
No. A fraudulent financial claim does not lead towards a greater good and does harm.

I think I know where you're headed with this. :wink:

Regards,
MG


Then you would know why your faith is not a positive trait.


I believe that it is a positive trait...as far as I'm concerned. The foundation that it rests on seems quite solid, on the whole, to me. If I felt that my faith was misplaced, I would dispense with it. I have seen no overwhelming reason to dispense with my faith or choose another default position.

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MG
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mentalgymnast wrote:
I believe that it is a positive trait...as far as I'm concerned. The foundation that it rests on seems quite solid, on the whole, to me. If I felt that my faith was misplaced, I would dispense with it. I have seen no overwhelming reason to dispense with my faith or choose another default position.

Regards,
MG


The fact that you don't see your faith in certain beliefs as untrue doesn't make that faith a positive trait. I could have a lot of blind faith in something that is true, even though I don't have any evidence that it is, and it would still be a negative trait. Even if LDS truth claims are true, your faith in them is not a positive. It would just mean you are one of the very few lucky ones to have guessed the right beliefs to have faith in. It is still a trait of gullibility.
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