WW2 politics, and leading up to the War and beyond...

[Markk]

when is changes the context, it does....it you believe what you did is a honest assessment of what he said in the foreword, then you won't get it. He said he took detailed notes in Moscow....The conference was in Moscow, with Russians and Stalin....

In Moscow, however, owing to the need for translation, there was time to make detailed notes of my talks with Stalin and other Soviet officials

Ah, fairly noted. Mea culpa. Thanks.

What do you believe on the subject, was the meeting secret and between Stalin and Churchill, or do all these historians got it wrong?

I don't know if the meeting was secret, but for reasons we haven't discussed I think it fairly certain that Harriman was not present for the 'percentages note' meeting. Just for what it's worth.

It is a given history that the meeting was "secret." Meaning Britain and Russia alone, no US representation. There is a lot written about it.

The larger point I was making is that Churchill, whom I respect and he was the Lion, was very concerned for Britain. He knew Britain would never again be the World power it was before the war, and was trying to protect Britain's interests that remained, and against the Soviets if the kept going west.

[Bret Ripley]

Ah, fairly noted. Mea culpa. Thanks.

I don't know if the meeting was secret, but for reasons we haven't discussed I think it fairly certain that Harriman was not present for the 'percentages note' meeting. Just for what it's worth.

It is a given history that the meeting was "secret."

"Given history"?

Meaning Britain and Russia alone, no US representation.

That is not what 'secret' means, but never mind.

There is a lot written about it.

Yes, I know. That's what I meant when I mentioned 'reasons we haven't discussed.'

The larger point I was making is that Churchill, whom I respect and he was the Lion, was very concerned for Britain. He knew Britain would never again be the World power it was before the war, and was trying to protect Britain's interests that remained, and against the Soviets if the kept going west.

Umm, OK. Do you think anyone disagrees with that?