Who is your favorite LDS ?????apologist??????

Post by **_Moniker** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:15 am

Oh, well, I suppose Nehor is on my list as well. My list could get very long now that I think I know what an apologist is....

Post by **_moksha** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:23 am

I want to add more too:

The Nehor
Garden Girl
Morningstar
Alter Idem
Harmony
Liz

Post by **_Mary** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:03 am

I'll add Katherine the Great to the favourite Pro-lds posters.

She's a really good example for the church in my opinion.
I respect Bill Hamblin and DCP for their intelligence and knowledge, and bet they are really nice people in real life, just that they can come across as a bit intelectually arrogant and unloving on occassion.

I also always listen to Koakaipo and really enjoyed Del March's posts...

Dr Steuss I love your humour (and Moksha's) reminds me not to take everything too seriously...

T. Shirt has always been very kind to me also...

Juliann is on my case at the moment so I'm a bit wary of her...
I wish she would write more on her areas of expertise... (early christian movement)

Mary

_Yoda · Post by **_Yoda** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:42 pm

Doctor Steuss wrote:
liz3564 wrote:You're an apologist? Sorry, Steuss! In that case, you definitely make my list of faves, too!

Nothing against you Liz, but to hell with being on a list of faves. I want my damn coffee mug (or T-shirt, or flogging, or whatever it is I get with the position).

If I don’t get my comeuppance for being an apologist, I’m quitting (I've heard that the Anti's have better health-care...)

I think I have an extra Starbuck's mug in my car. I'll send it your way.

;)

Post by **_The Nehor** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:43 pm

No one chooses the Nehor? I think I'm going to cry :)

_Yoda · Post by **_Yoda** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:45 pm

The Nehor wrote:No one chooses the Nehor? I think I'm going to cry :)

Nehor! Sorry, baby! I'll add you to my list.

;)

Edited to add---You can have my Panera Bread ice coffee mug. LOL

Post by **_The Nehor** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:48 pm

liz3564 wrote:
The Nehor wrote:No one chooses the Nehor? I think I'm going to cry :)

Nehor! Sorry, baby! I'll add you to my list.

;)

Edited to add---You can have my Panera Bread ice coffee mug. LOL

Can I have a sandwich and a cookie too? (Gotta ride this train as far as it will go) :)

Note: SHADES!!!!!! Return smilies to the people!

_Yoda · Post by **_Yoda** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:50 pm

The Nehor wrote:
liz3564 wrote:
The Nehor wrote:No one chooses the Nehor? I think I'm going to cry :)

Nehor! Sorry, baby! I'll add you to my list.

;)

Edited to add---You can have my Panera Bread ice coffee mug. LOL

Can I have a sandwich and a cookie too? (Gotta ride this train as far as it will go) :)

Note: SHADES!!!!!! Return smilies to the people!

Sure. You've gotta have their soup, too. French Onion is my favorite. LOL

I'm afraid Shades is going to stand fast to his "no smilies" policy. :(

Post by **_Some Schmo** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:15 pm

Mike Reed wrote:
Some Schmo wrote:Absolutely!

I don't disrespect mopologists because I disagree with them. I disrespect them because they want to take nonsensical things, spin them and try to make them look scholarly when we all know that in reality, they're making up a bunch of crap to sell a con job religion. I think it's despicable and not worthy of respect.

My observation as an ex-mopologist is that they (generally speaking) start first with the conclusion that the Church is true, and then they work backwards fitting the "facts" to justify the conclusion. This methodology has been called retrojection or eisogesis. At times... this may require great effort, trying extremely hard to cram a round peg into a square hole (so much so that either the peg or hole get stripped)... but this is not the same thing as knowingly selling a con-job religion. I didn't know when I was an apologist for FAIR.

I think this assessment is dead-on accurate. The thing is, ignorance is not an excuse for doing what apologists do. People still go to jail whether they are aware they broke a law or not. It is not admirable to argue against reality.

Perhaps saying it's "despicable" is a bit strong, but at the very least, it's willful ignorance and intellectual dishonesty, and those things are not worthy of respect. I do tend to respect those (with one notable exception) who were once apologists and realized they were fighting a losing battle, but they aren't apologists any more.

Post by **_The Nehor** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:21 pm

liz3564 wrote:Sure. You've gotta have their soup, too. French Onion is my favorite. LOL

I'm afraid Shades is going to stand fast to his "no smilies" policy. :(

I like baked potato soup.