Official LDS statement on Christ in America

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_Scottie
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Re: Official LDS statement on Christ in America

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Daniel Peterson wrote:No particular reason. Except that we don't even believe our canonical scriptures to be inerrant.

So this pamphlet, it would seem, would be superior to the Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price.

I'd never realized that.

Wait, you're trying to argue that because something is errant that it can't be doctrine. But the scriptures are errant and they are doctrine.

So, explain again why this piece wasn't considered doctrine? The "I just didn't think it was" argument isn't very convincing.

You think it was official binding doctrine of the Church that Quetzalcoatl was Jesus?

I don't.

I think it was a common argument, widely accepted. It never even occurred to me to regard it as binding official doctrine.

So missionaries are taught to give testimony to non-doctrinal theories, and pass these pamphlets out as truth, even while the brethren know they are not?? The church passes out pamphlets of unproven theories as a selling tool to get converts?? And you somehow think this is BETTER than if the brethren believed it was true??

How disgusting if the church knew this was only a theory, but presented it to would be investigators as fact for the sole purpose of gaining converts.

Once again, my suspicions are confirmed. The goal of missionary work is not to share the truth as LDS would have us believe. It is to get converts... by whatever means necessary.
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Re: Official LDS statement on Christ in America

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antishock8 wrote:
Inconceivable wrote:..who and what in the hell do you actually believe?[/b]

posers.

Oh, ho ho hooooo..... You think Pumpo the Clown will actually have a meaningful interaction with you? Uh. No.


You are obsolutely correct, I don't think we ever will. Both will scoot when scrutinized.

Speaking particularly of professor Peterson:
28 O that cunning plan of the evil one! O the vainness, and the frailties, and the foolishness of men! When they are learned they think they are wise, and they hearken not unto the counsel of God, for they set it aside, supposing they know of themselves, wherefore, their wisdom is foolishness and it profiteth them not. And they shall perish.
29 But to be learned is good if they hearken unto the counsels of God.

(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 9:28 - 29)


Who's counsel do they follow? And what doctrine, specifically? Surely they don't accept the words of their own prophets.

Yet I and others are mocked for taking a stand against the very people who's authority they diminish. Surely they don't represent the church they profess to belong to?

Irony?
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Re: Official LDS statement on Christ in America

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It's very ironical.
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Re: Official LDS statement on Christ in America

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Circling back on another misstatement by Dr Peterson . .

DCP:
Does it refute limited geographical models for the Book of Mormon? Not that I can see.


I believe it does..

From the pamphlet:
“The tradition of a White God in ancient America was preserved through generations of Indians from Chile to Alaska, and has been significantly persistent likewise among the Polynesians from Hawaii to New Zealand.”

Actually that casts doubt on LGT as LGT requires a small area of land for the place for Book of Mormon history and the Church is teaching during the 70’s was that the Book of Mormon’s record of Christ’ visit resulted in the White Man traditions of the entire Western Hemisphere. This is consistent with the hemispheric view of the time. Not LGT.
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