Faith promoting lies

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_solomarineris
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Re: Faith promoting lies

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wenglund wrote:The last several posts from solomarineris have made a myth out of his requested "let's get serious". :lol:
Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Yes Wade,
Let's talk about something serious,
Where do we start? Polygamy, Temple Ceremony, Book of Abraham, Law of Consecration of all my talents, wealth to LDS Church?
Oh, how about I cannot participate my child's wedding? Because I am not a member?
You are serving to a CULT, this is what majority of people say lately;
Mormonism does much more harm than it does good..
PS;
You don't even get it; for a sizable portion of participants here think you guys are laughingstocks of the bunch.
"As I say, it never ceases to amaze me how gullible some of our Church members are"
Harold B. Lee, "Admonitions for the Priesthood of God", Ensign, Jan 1973
_Doctor CamNC4Me
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Re: Faith promoting lies

Post by _Doctor CamNC4Me »

Scottie wrote:
solomarineris wrote:Are we on the same page?
My assertion is, there is no historical (archeological) evidence anywhere, which ties to Book of Mormon.
Have you seen one?

NHM

Again, you may not like it or think it is very good evidence, but it is evidence.

Now, if you are talking about mesoamerican evidence, I'd have to agree. I have yet to see any evidence. And, in fact, that is quite a bit of evidence against the Book of Mormon.


Sir,

I believe the only evidentiary value NHM provides is of itself. Again, NHM can be linked to 25 different possible word combinations. This endless canard never seems to lose steam within Mormondom.

Very Respectfully,

Doctor CamNC4Me

Hello,

Well, unfortunately Mr. Maklelan declined my invitation. Twice. So, I suppose I will engage in an attempt to address "NHM" in an overarching manner. I will try to be as concise as possible in my thoughts.

1) The LDS church claims a stone altar in Yemen bears the inscription "NHM". LDS apologists link this to the Book of Mormon place name "Nahom". This is presented as evidence for the authenticity of the Book of Mormon.

2) Lehi's party travelled South by Southeast more or less along the Red Sea until they reached Nahom. I believe Ishmael was buried there according to the story.

3) No other specific places were described in any useful manner.

4) The Hebraic word/name "NHM" could be Nahom, but if could be Nahum, Niham, Noham, Nuhim, Nuham, so on and so forth. There are 25 possible combinations; 30 if you leave the second vowell out completely.

5) Apologists point out "NHM" must be "Nahom" because the place is found near a cemetery, and the word "nahom" means "to be sorry". However, if the consonants "NHM" are pronounced as written, it should be pronounced with the H as hard, not soft (this is what we find in "nahom" to be sorry"). So the sound would be like "ch" as in Scottish "loch" and we should expect to read of a Book of Mormon placename of "Nachom, not "Nahom." The Book of Mormon placename doesn't fit the Hebrew word "to be sorry".

6) Book of Mormon etymology varies wildly, and "Nahom" is explicable in contrast to other words unique to the text.

7) If the "NHM" altar is the most important piece of geographical "evidence" Mormons have for their claims then they do not have any evidence at all. It is simply conjecture. It is an irrelevancy.


Very Respectfully,

Docotr CamNC4Me
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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