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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver
What a God, that Will Schryver ... no wonder his calling and election is sure!
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver
RockSlider wrote:What a God, that Will Schryver ... no wonder his calling and election is sure!
Ah, yes, the old "calling and election made sure" line.
Anyway, the only thing I can see that is "sure" around here is the curse that has befallen all the apostate evangelists in the GSTP.
(Gotta go the post office now and send this important letter back to Church headquarters, so I'll have to check back later and see if anything interesting transpires in my absence.)
I thought myself the wiser to have viewed the evidence left of such a great demise. I followed every step. But the only thing I ever learned before the journey's end was there was nothing there to learn, only something to forget.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver
I have never in my life used the "C" word, in public or private.
Then what word did you use, little Willie?
You denied calling Emma a bitch until the evidence was provided, and you then had no choice but to admit it.
There are numerous witnesses who saw your original post before it was censored by the moderator. You're the only person here with a credibility problem. Why the hell would we all conspire to make this up? Especially when the case that you're a despicable liar has already been established? It makes no sense.
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Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver
Will Schryver wrote:
Just as Trevor’s “Silence Schryver” gambit ultimately failed in its objective and only served to dispel the mirage of his own false reputation, so now has MsJack chosen to break herself on the same stone.
Schryver saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. Behold, I am that same stone, saith The Schryver.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver
With the amazing proliferation of the lynch mob, I think this thread has now reached critical mass and can officially qualify as group hysteria. Perhaps a commemorative medalian is in order--embosed with an icon comprised of pitch forks and torches and the phrase, "Vulgas Mente, multisque unus" (Mob Mentality, many against the one)
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Terrestrial comments from Will Schryver thread
An absolute, unalloyed, unreconstructed nightmare from hell.
The form of this thread, and the approach taken by the OP is, in point of fact, a classic template long ago made popular by Scratch during his long, tedious and many faceted vendetta against Dr. Peterson, in which, month after month, year after year, and thread after thread, entire threads were constructed around the person, personality, and deep characterological faults of said defender of the faith.
Of course, messrs Gee, Hamblin, Rhodes et al have all come in for numerous personal attack threads who's sole purpose is...well, personal attack.
Will is here and under this particular knife, again, because of his work in the apologetic arena, with particular emphasis on his Book of Abraham arguments and ongoing challenge to the Book of Abraham's critics.
Why do I say this? Why do I tend to see this as a rather manufactured outrage? A number of those here who are in a state of fevered, righteous indignation at Will's alleged misogyny have, for many years, been among the worst offenders as to calumny, slander, and personal venom of the worst kind aimed at defenders of the Church here, at the MADboards, at FARMS, and among the leaders of the Church.
Other members of this intellectual ghetto, not participating in this thread at the moment, have also received a pass, even for the most egregious sexual vulgarities and flaming profanities lobbed at apologists, faithful church members, and General Authorities.
Paul O? Nortinski? Pologyam Porter? How about Darth J? We could add more here, and in virtually all of such cases, not only has language been used here, equal to and well surpassing what Will is alleged to have said, and on a continual basis, but those using such language, so long as that language was targeted at TBMs and apologists defending the Church and challenging the exmo/anti-Mormon orthodoxy, it has always been viewed with a wink and a nod and allowed to continue, all in good fun.
Until, that is, Will shows up and goes into Don Rickles mode now and then against some especially obnoxious and Juicy targets. Well look, I've done that too, and I've apologized here, probably a half dozen or so times in 5 or 6 years, because of some things I've said. Other things I've said (such as describing Beastie yesterday in this very thread as "reptilian") have not been apologized for, because I frankly stand by them, not as insults, but as my seriously considered opinion of certain persons here and their conduct.
The few things Will has said over the years, here and there, intermittently and in reference to woman, are, I think as he pointed out, PG level verbal jousting, and tame in comparison to what I've seen here on a consistent basis since this board's inception. I'm not defending Will language here, but at the same time, I am saying that the charge of misogyny is tendentious and overheated moral posturing coming from people who are trying to shoot clay pigeons in the proverbial glass house.
Will is quite obviously being singled out because he is who he is and has done what he has done vis-a-vis the Book of Abraham, and not because of any lapses in judgment regarding personal attacks. Personal attacking, including deeply vulgar and juvenile sexual banter, has been de rigueur here since this board crawled out of the primordial soup and grew legs.
Lets move on, because, well, you know, there's nothing to see here.
The form of this thread, and the approach taken by the OP is, in point of fact, a classic template long ago made popular by Scratch during his long, tedious and many faceted vendetta against Dr. Peterson, in which, month after month, year after year, and thread after thread, entire threads were constructed around the person, personality, and deep characterological faults of said defender of the faith.
Of course, messrs Gee, Hamblin, Rhodes et al have all come in for numerous personal attack threads who's sole purpose is...well, personal attack.
Will is here and under this particular knife, again, because of his work in the apologetic arena, with particular emphasis on his Book of Abraham arguments and ongoing challenge to the Book of Abraham's critics.
Why do I say this? Why do I tend to see this as a rather manufactured outrage? A number of those here who are in a state of fevered, righteous indignation at Will's alleged misogyny have, for many years, been among the worst offenders as to calumny, slander, and personal venom of the worst kind aimed at defenders of the Church here, at the MADboards, at FARMS, and among the leaders of the Church.
Other members of this intellectual ghetto, not participating in this thread at the moment, have also received a pass, even for the most egregious sexual vulgarities and flaming profanities lobbed at apologists, faithful church members, and General Authorities.
Paul O? Nortinski? Pologyam Porter? How about Darth J? We could add more here, and in virtually all of such cases, not only has language been used here, equal to and well surpassing what Will is alleged to have said, and on a continual basis, but those using such language, so long as that language was targeted at TBMs and apologists defending the Church and challenging the exmo/anti-Mormon orthodoxy, it has always been viewed with a wink and a nod and allowed to continue, all in good fun.
Until, that is, Will shows up and goes into Don Rickles mode now and then against some especially obnoxious and Juicy targets. Well look, I've done that too, and I've apologized here, probably a half dozen or so times in 5 or 6 years, because of some things I've said. Other things I've said (such as describing Beastie yesterday in this very thread as "reptilian") have not been apologized for, because I frankly stand by them, not as insults, but as my seriously considered opinion of certain persons here and their conduct.
The few things Will has said over the years, here and there, intermittently and in reference to woman, are, I think as he pointed out, PG level verbal jousting, and tame in comparison to what I've seen here on a consistent basis since this board's inception. I'm not defending Will language here, but at the same time, I am saying that the charge of misogyny is tendentious and overheated moral posturing coming from people who are trying to shoot clay pigeons in the proverbial glass house.
Will is quite obviously being singled out because he is who he is and has done what he has done vis-a-vis the Book of Abraham, and not because of any lapses in judgment regarding personal attacks. Personal attacking, including deeply vulgar and juvenile sexual banter, has been de rigueur here since this board crawled out of the primordial soup and grew legs.
Lets move on, because, well, you know, there's nothing to see here.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver
For example (one of countless that could be adduced), sockpuppet has just started a new thread in the Terrestrial room. Its title?
If TBMs didn't masturbate...
What if Will had started a thread with this title, only changing it to, "If Exmo's didn't masturbate." There is no moral outrage or finger wagging regarding puppet's thread, only juvenile, High School snickering and mocking of LDS moral standards.
What's on sockpuppet's mind here? Is it in the gutter? If Will started a mindless thread with a sexual theme such as this, he'd be branded a pervert with a diseased, gutter mind trolling for sexual stimulation on this board. So would I, if I had ever started such a thread.
And sockpuppet?
See how it works?
If TBMs didn't masturbate...
What if Will had started a thread with this title, only changing it to, "If Exmo's didn't masturbate." There is no moral outrage or finger wagging regarding puppet's thread, only juvenile, High School snickering and mocking of LDS moral standards.
What's on sockpuppet's mind here? Is it in the gutter? If Will started a mindless thread with a sexual theme such as this, he'd be branded a pervert with a diseased, gutter mind trolling for sexual stimulation on this board. So would I, if I had ever started such a thread.
And sockpuppet?
See how it works?
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver
Some of you may remember a famous thread started by Nortinski titled, Mitt Romney lying like a mother f***er.
Now, what if, just as a thought experiment, what if Will had initiated a thread here entitled Brent Metcalf is lying like a mother f***er?
In perusing that old thread, I found no outrage, no criticism, indeed, not even an acknowledgment that Nortinski may have been way out of line in using that kind of language to describe Mitt Romney. No one called him out as a vulgar bigot, as Will has been called out for being a hater of woman for his own personal jabs at certain people here.
Oh, there was one very interesting response to this OP, from one Paul Osborne. This is circa 2006:
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Now, what if, just as a thought experiment, what if Will had initiated a thread here entitled Brent Metcalf is lying like a mother f***er?
In perusing that old thread, I found no outrage, no criticism, indeed, not even an acknowledgment that Nortinski may have been way out of line in using that kind of language to describe Mitt Romney. No one called him out as a vulgar bigot, as Will has been called out for being a hater of woman for his own personal jabs at certain people here.
Oh, there was one very interesting response to this OP, from one Paul Osborne. This is circa 2006:
Yes, Jason is right about Nort. The poor boy has problems and I doubt they will get fixed anytime soon. The Church is true and there ain't a damn thing Nort can do to change that.
The guy has no class - he is probably a bumb going from job to job. Am I right about that, Nort-the-snort?
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver
ROFL!
I don't think anyone reads Droopy's posts anymore. He's always left alone, responding to himself just to keep his own idiotic threads alive.
I don't think anyone reads Droopy's posts anymore. He's always left alone, responding to himself just to keep his own idiotic threads alive.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver
Kevin Graham wrote:ROFL!
I don't think anyone reads Droopy's posts anymore. He's always left alone, responding to himself just to keep his own idiotic threads alive.
Try as I might, I just can't get through his posts. It's always 10,000 words of pedantic self-stimulation with very little actual content.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
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