My Website.... Question about Design?

[_ldsfaqs]

Was any of that supposed to make any sense?

1 - I never said they were ugly - apparently your reading comprehension is as good as your web design skills...

That IS what you said. You maybe didn't use the exact word, but it's what you said.

2 - I gave you my opinion, which is what you were looking for... I was trying, for one post, to ignore the fact that you are a homophobic, gravitationally-challenged, narrow-minded racist and actually give you a couple of pointers in an area I am actually very familiar with as you are obviously not particularly adept at web-design/marketing, you have no people skills and I was actually starting to feel sorry for you considering you seem to be somewhat mentally unstable...

What an absolute LIAR you are..... Amazing how you people lie to yourselves and the rest of us. You didn't in any way shape or form "put away your judgments" of me otherwise.
Yes, you gave an "opinion", but that's all it was. You didn't provide any sort of actual "analysis" like a normal web professional would. I know buddy, this is not my first rodeo, and I've done it for others.

Sorry, but anti-mormons always say that. Any Mormon that actually has any balls to condemn YOUR mental instability, and WE are the ones who are mentally unstable. Seen it all before.

3 - I can see why you have have been doing this for "years" and have yet to make any money doing it...

I didn't say I was operating my own business in relation to my websites for years.
Obviously I'm just now try to get some things going in that regard.

4 - Unlike you, I am not stupid enough to purposely and publicly link my professional life and my personal life.

That's because you are double minded, pretending to be good while you are evil.
People that are in the public eye that have nothing to hide don't need to post anonymously.

5 - If you have applied for a job though any of the major job boards in the last 5 years, you have most likely been on one of our sites.

And how are they any more "professional" than the 4 I think are professional per their requirements?

6 - I blame the anti-mormons, liberals and your ex-wife for your unsuccessful web ventures, it certainly has nothing to do with you...

Actually, the ex has some to do with the web ventures. I wasn't able to get to them and some others that aren't up at the moment because of her actions. When someone has a family, they aren't alone anymore in what things influence their actions and decisions. Maybe you didn't know that???

[_ldsfaqs]

I don't know if ldsfaqs will find this of use or not. But since we're talking graphic design and aesthetics, I thought I'd mention a few things...

Here's some great web design:

http://www.wimdelvoye.be/

That ones more of a game than an actual practical website design.

http://showstudio.com/

This one is a pretty decent and practical design.

But you don't need to have the money or design chops to make something gorgeous which maximizes form and function. I built a simple website using Indexhibit. As a web design blog describes it, "Indexhibit is a simple to implement and easy to modify web platform (much like Wordpress) that is available for free from Indexhibit.org. It is totally open-source. The only stipulation of using it is that the site say “Built With Indexhibit” with a link back to the project site. While the standard layout and Indexhibit menu system is easy to use, Indexhibit themes are few (and not in the spirit of the project!). With a tiny amount of work, Indexhibit is highly customizable and very flexible."

The idea is not to use ready made themes---which really do make one's site look unprofessional blog---but customize your site using a few very versatile formats 'built in' to the platform or even better, learn from other participants how to produce a myriad of effects. Everyone who uses Indexhibit is extremely helpful and very cool about sharing their coding and layouts. My website is super simple: I'll be revamping it into something more fresh soon, but I'm a pushover for the minimalist and spartan aesthetic which seems to typify Indexhibit design.

swissmiss, an indispensable design blog, featured a more quick n' easy alternative to Indexhibit called Stacey. I may try this out when I redesign my site. I'm a total coding know-nothing, but I didn't find the basic HTML for Indexhibit at all difficult once I got my feet wet: plus everyone on the forum talked me through my noob issues so nicely. Still, I may try something different this time.

Ya, there are all kinds of things out there.

Anywho, here's some examples of the different things people have done in Indexhibit:

http://www.yesinacircle.com/

http://www.stephaniecorda.com/

http://www.oliverandciaran.co.uk/

http://www.simonemassafra.it/

http://www.haynesriley.com/

http://www.designandother.com.au/

http://www.armellahaene.ch/

http://www.strong-winds.com/

Clean, simple design.

Ya, too simple, generic, old style.
These kinds of sites are what websites looked like 15 years ago.
Very little structure, function, etc.

It's funny when I compare the Templates/Sites I've saved over the years, how they have changed, what looked good even just 10 years ago have so much more advanced now.

Most people use Indexhibit for art portfolios or for their own graphic design work, but I've also seen sites built on this platform for businesses as well.

Ya, most of these platforms are pretty flexible to do whatever you want with them.

Thanks for adding your experience.

[_Blixa]

Even blogging platforms like Blogger can be used to great effect.

BLDGBLOG

Pruned

The Sartorialist

are all done with the same blogging software I design my class websites with....

[_Blixa]

Wim Delvoye's website is not a game. It's his portfolio.

And minimalism is an aesthetic choice; one currently favored by most photographers and designers because of the overly busy templated look of web design run amok.

My point to you, ldsfaqs, was that it was pretty easy to come up with something creative rather than using templated websites. Heck even templates can be used more creatively than the ones you featured: though I favor the spartan, there's currently an explosion of bells n' whistle templates generated by tumblr users.

However, I do realize that I'm looking at design in the abstract here. In order to appeal to the kind of audience you want, what you've already put up may be just the ticket.

[Guest]

That IS what you said. You maybe didn't use the exact word, but it's what you said.

Lol - that's what I said even though I didn't say that. I need to start keeping a list of the stupid things you say - classic.

What an absolute LIAR you are..... Amazing how you people lie to yourselves and the rest of us. You didn't in any way shape or form "put away your judgments" of me otherwise.
Yes, you gave an "opinion", but that's all it was. You didn't provide any sort of actual "analysis" like a normal web professional would. I know buddy, this is not my first rodeo, and I've done it for others.

When did I say I "put away my judgements"...Do you actually know what quotes stand for? I just said I was attempting to ignore the fact that you are an angry, mentally-crippled, racist homophobe for one post. Again, you fail miserably as I never claimed to be doing any type of "professional "analysis"". QUIT LYING YOU LYING LIAR!!!!

I didn't say I was operating my own business in relation to my websites for years.
Obviously I'm just now try to get some things going in that regard.

And you are already failing....for many reasons - some of which I mentioned above. But, you don't seem to be interested other people's opinions so, good luck!

That's because you are double minded, pretending to be good while you are evil.
People that are in the public eye that have nothing to hide don't need to post anonymously

Yes, that must be it...Your success as a web entrepreneur makes complete sense now....

And how are they any more "professional" than the 4 I think are professional per their requirements?

The fact that we all knew it was a template the instant we saw it should be all you need to know...

Actually, the ex has some to do with the web ventures. I wasn't able to get to them and some others that aren't up at the moment because of her actions. When someone has a family, they aren't alone anymore in what things influence their actions and decisions. Maybe you didn't know that???

I have plenty of family and have launched several software packages and websites. Excuses are like assholes...

[_Bond James Bond]

LDSfaqs,

Do you really want future business clients to see you without your shirt off and/or your family linked to the business website? They don't. They want to think they're doing business with someone who is totally committed to business and not private matters.

[_Morley]

Ldsfaq, for the most part, people who’ve posted on this thread are trying to help you. Please take a slow breath. Try to not think of them as democrats or elitists or non-Mormons, but as people taking time and making effort to connect with another human being.

[_ldsfaqs]

I've appreciated the "three" actual helpful comments, and Blixa's contribution....

However, the rest of the thread is just nothing.
And the attitude of this "screech" is just beyond the pale.
He has the gal to say a lot of junk, without actually saying anything at all other than degrading me and simply saying my websites are "ugly templates".

This thread was a specific question, a specific website.
I have never seen such a LACK of actual help in my entire life, other than what I've already mentioned in the first sentence above. Three pages of NOTHING.

WOW....

Anyway, moving on to people who will actually give website analysis and feedback.

[_Bond James Bond]

I've appreciated the "three" actual helpful comments, and Blixa's contribution....

However, the rest of the thread is just nothing.
And the attitude of this "screech" is just beyond the pale.
He has the gal to say a lot of junk, without actually saying anything at all other than degrading me and simply saying my websites are "ugly templates".

This thread was a specific question, a specific website.
I have never seen such a LACK of actual help in my entire life, other than what I've already mentioned in the first sentence above. Three pages of NOTHING.

WOW....

Anyway, moving on to people who will actually give website analysis and feedback.

If you're not going to make use of advice from professionals then I recommend that instead of wasting money on websites that don't have any content you use that money to pay off your taxes.

[_schreech]