Possible Modern Source for the Book of Mormon

[_Kishkumen]

The point being, "Late War" was written "in the ancient style" in modern times, and I'll be damned if it doesn't pass every "ancient imagery" smell test that the Book of Mormon passes.

Well, chiasmus is the iron test, Dean Robbers.

[_Kishkumen]

It looks like there are dozens, if not more, LDS articles on why the phrase "curious workmanship" helps show the divinity of the Book of Mormon.

Now what? Michael Ash, help!!!

I am curious what Mike will say about Chris Johnson's earth-shattering discovery.

The whole idea that no 19th-century person could have written the Book of Mormon has really been challenged by these discoveries.

[_xolotl]

Sounds fascinating Kishkumen, to be fair though, Spalding's manuscript story is not what Rigdon and Joseph purportedly used to create the Book of Mormon. It is the manuscript found, which we don't have. We only have eye witnesses who knew Spalding and listened to him read from his final manuscript. I'm Looking forward to seeing the audio or video of this presentation get put online.

[_Gadianton]

So, whoever had seen a copy of Walker, and looks as though Smith may well have, could have seen an ad for the Hunt book, eh?

yeah, some awesome finds by Control Freak and Everybody Wang Chung.

I've sent some PMs out to get more eyes on this.

If the work already done at the conference you reference hasn't nailed the coffin shut for the apologists, by the time this thread has run its coarse it will be all over.

I doubt we'll see any response from the apologists soon, no doubt they see your thread here, Kish, and are paralyzed. They'll pretend it isn't happening until the momentum forces them to deal with it.

[_Kishkumen]

Sounds fascinating Kishkumen, to be fair though, Spalding's manuscript story is not what Rigdon and Joseph purportedly used to create the Book of Mormon. It is the manuscript found, which we don't have. We only have eye witnesses who knew Spalding and listened to him read from his final manuscript. I'm Looking forward to seeing the audio or video of this presentation get put online.

Point taken, xolotl. To be fair to me, however, I was commenting that I had not read anything so strikingly similar to the Book of Mormon's language as Hunt. Now I have read two, and neither of them were written by Solomon Spalding.

[_Shulem]

Has anyone already done a thorough comparison of this yet?

A fellow by the name of Chris Johnson presented on this book and another about Napoleon at the ex-Mo conference.

The crap is about to hit the fan, my friends.

The Napoleon book is also amazing.

This is the end for the Book of Mormon. It's doomed and no one can save it now. Gather the troops and prepare for war.



Paul O

[_ControlFreak]

Sounds fascinating Kishkumen, to be fair though, Spalding's manuscript story is not what Rigdon and Joseph purportedly used to create the Book of Mormon. It is the manuscript found, which we don't have. We only have eye witnesses who knew Spalding and listened to him read from his final manuscript. I'm Looking forward to seeing the audio or video of this presentation get put online.

But who knows? Maybe this constituted much of Spalding's source material? We don't have a detailed explanation for the entire contents of the Book of Mormon, but there is obviously plenty of potential source material to work from!

[_Kishkumen]

If the work already done at the conference you reference hasn't nailed the coffin shut for the apologists, by the time this thread has run its coarse it will be all over.

I doubt we'll see any response from the apologists soon, no doubt they see your thread here, Kish, and are paralyzed. They'll pretend it isn't happening until the momentum forces them to deal with it.

If Greg Smith were a critic, he would likely be inscribing the epitaph on the funereal monument of the arguments for the ancient Book of Mormon. I love the phrase Mount Doom. It never gets old.

[_Everybody Wang Chung]

7. Their polished steels of fine workmanship Chapter LIV


There are a couple of LDS articles if you google "fine workmanship" and "Book of Mormon" that show the term "fine workmanship" is a hebraism and shows the divinity of the Book of Mormon.

I guess those are also out the window right now?

[_Doctor Scratch]

So, whoever had seen a copy of Walker, and looks as though Smith may well have, could have seen an ad for the Hunt book, eh?

yeah, some awesome finds by Control Freak and Everybody Wang Chung.

I've sent some PMs out to get more eyes on this.

If the work already done at the conference you reference hasn't nailed the coffin shut for the apologists, by the time this thread has run its coarse it will be all over.

I doubt we'll see any response from the apologists soon, no doubt they see your thread here, Kish, and are paralyzed. They'll pretend it isn't happening until the momentum forces them to deal with it.

It does seem like it's game over for the Book of Mormon, doesn't it? On the other hand, the apologists can rejoice now, since this confirms one of their longstanding arguments. They've always said that it was impossible to believe that a simple farm boy like Joseph Smith could produce the Book of Mormon text. And sure enough, this find shows that he didn't have to--all he had to do was read and copy.