Dr. Peterson's FAIR Conference Talk

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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:Let's recap:

1. DCP claims in his FAIR presentation that for 15 years (since 2003) he has been receiving "obscene emails" on an almost daily basis and publicly blames Dr. Scratch.

2. At no time during this alleged 15 year period did DCP think to apply a content and/or sender filter to block these alleged "obscene emails."

3. Dr. Scratch writes this brilliant thread about DCP's sloppy and ill-prepared FAIR presentation.

4. DCP rather then addressing the content of his FAIR presentation, sends Kishkumen some emails (the oldest, going back 4 years) in what I can only assume as an attempt to drum up sympathy and place the blame on Dr. Scratch and this board, which DCP constantly describes as a "seething cesspool of hatred, evil and stupidity."

5. Many mormondiscussion.com members jump in and roundly condemn the sending of harrassing or obscene emails.

6. DCP sits back and enjoys the controversy he has created by playing the fake victim card and bearing false witness against Dr. Scratch.

I personally know Dr. Scratch and I personally know DCP. One is a good and honorable person, a brilliant scholar and a well respected and upstanding member in his community. The other is a dishonest Mopologist with an ego the size of Mount Everest.

Congratulations mormondiscussions, everyone here was just DCP'd: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ


What do you mean when you say you “personally know” Dr. Scratch and DCP? You have met with them in person? You know each other in real life under your legal identities? Now this is news!

If this is true, then we have all been taken for quite a ride over the past decade+.
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Kishkumen wrote:
What do you mean when you say you “personally know” Dr. Scratch and DCP? You have met with them in person? You know each other in real life under your legal identities? Now this is news!

If this is true, then we have all been taken for quite a ride over the past decade+.


Yes, I have personally met and know Dr. Scratch, in real life.

I also know DCP both personally and in a very limited professional capacity. However, DCP doesn't know I post here as "Everybody Wang Chung."

I don't think I've ever made any of this a secret.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:Yes, I have personally met and know Dr. Scratch, in real life.

I also know DCP both personally and in a very limited professional capacity. However, DCP doesn't know I post here as "Everybody Wang Chung."

I don't think I've ever made any of this a secret.


Oh, yes, you went on that tour in Israel with both of them?

:wink:
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I just want it noted no emails have been produced. Absolutely zero.

- Doc
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I just want it noted no emails have been produced. Absolutely zero.

- Doc


Cam,

There should be approximately 5,475 (15 years worth, 15 x 365) obscene emails in DCP's possession.

DCP, just send us 5.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I just want it noted no emails have been produced. Absolutely zero.

- Doc


Why don’t you shoot DCP an email and ask him to forward some to you?
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Kishkumen wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I just want it noted no emails have been produced. Absolutely zero.

- Doc


Why don’t you shoot DCP an email and ask him to forward some to you?


I've sent Mr. Peterson exactly two letters in the past. Both were requests to produce the 2nd Watson Letter. I did this because he himself said if anyone requests copies of the 2nd Watson Letter he'd be more than happy to provide them. He never got back to me.

I'm not confident he actually has what he purports to have, and, as an aside, I'm not even sure what email address he uses and checks regularly. If he pm's me an email address I'll make a request.

- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I've sent Mr. Peterson exactly two letters in the past. Both were requests to produce the 2nd Watson Letter. I did this because he himself said if anyone requests copies of the 2nd Watson Letter he'd be more than happy to provide them. He never got back to me.

I'm not confident he actually has what he purports to have, and, as an aside, I'm not even sure what email address he uses and checks regularly. If he pm's me an email address I'll make a request.

- Doc


His university email address works just fine. In fact, it worked just minutes ago.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I've sent Mr. Peterson exactly two letters in the past. Both were requests to produce the 2nd Watson Letter. I did this because he himself said if anyone requests copies of the 2nd Watson Letter he'd be more than happy to provide them. He never got back to me.

I'm not confident he actually has what he purports to have, and, as an aside, I'm not even sure what email address he uses and checks regularly. If he pm's me an email address I'll make a request.

- Doc


His university email address works just fine. In fact, it worked just minutes ago.


I would never bother him at work. That seems awfully intrusive, and I'm sure BYU wouldn't want him doing hobby-related correspondence through his official email, no?

He can pm me if he feels the need to actually back up his claims for once.

- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I would never bother him at work. That seems awfully intrusive, and I'm sure BYU wouldn't want him doing hobby-related correspondence through his official email, no?

He can pm me if he feels the need to actually back up his claims for once.

- Doc


Suit yourself.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
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