Science is a tool that can be abused!

[_The CCC]

OK. Prove by objective evidence your mother loved you.

There's a nice discussion of this in the comments section here.
https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.co ... tural-yes/

This comment points out the error in your thinking.

Your analogy is seriously flawed because you’re mixing up different categories of ‘things.’ In this case, you’re shifting from an emotion to an object.

Instead of demanding evidence that truthspeaker’s mother “loved him” you ought to ask if he could provide any objective evidence showing that his mother existed. My guess is that he could. More important, we can in theory provide scientific evidence that any person did or didn’t exist — objective, unbiased evidence capable of convincing a neutral rational observer.

You don’t think supernatural beings, entities, or forces are just ways of feeling and behaving, do you? Presumably not. God’s love is not God. So evidence for the supernatural is not going to be anything like evidence that somebody loves you, or that “love” exists (unless you actually think Love is some sort of magical energy field or essential substance, in which case you need to read something about ‘abstractions.’)

Stop playing games. This is not a gotcha. It’s an old and tired ploy, a bait ‘n switch that fools nobody — unless it’s still fooling you.

I'm not asking for empirical evidence that his mother existed. Which a well established assumption, based on limited experience. I'm asking for empirical evidence for her feelings. Which is also a well established assumption based on limited experience.

To say nothing of God is not to say God is nothing.

[_Chap]

Prove by objective evidence your mother loved you.

I'm not asking for empirical evidence that his mother existed. Which a well established assumption, based on limited experience. I'm asking for empirical evidence for her feelings. Which is also a well established assumption based on limited experience.

We only ever know of the feelings of others by their observable behavior. Do you need me to list the kinds of thing that a loving mother (as opposed to a cold and uncaring mother) would do and say? I mean, there would be:

Hugging and comforting him when he was upset.

Reading him stories.

Giving him lots of quality time.

Arranging outings with his friends

Smiling at him and hugging him when he came home.

Cooking his favorite food.

Being tolerant but consistent when he turned 'teenagey' ...

and so on. I mean, how do you know anyone loves you? You can't see into their head. You find out from the way they relate to you.

When did your deity last do anything for me that I could notice, and for which he clearly deserves the credit, like the things my mother did for me?

[_SteelHead]

Oh you "know" John walks the Earth ? Do tell. How do you know this?

I will tell you this much. In the scriptures there is a prophecy that involves John. I can tell you that the prophecy has been fulfilled.

Last time you tried to prove the fulfillment of prophecy, I showed that your math was wrong due to discrepancies in the gregorian calendar. But please, provide details instead of nebulous generalities. Or, am I supposed to just trust you?

[_SteelHead]

Ccc,
I can provide evidence that my mother exists, that she is biologically my mother, and her sworn statement that she loves me.

You can't make it to step one in proving god's love as you have 0 evidence for his existence.

[_spotlight]

The CCC,
Maybe it would be more straight forward and less convoluted for you to simply state what evidence you have that caused you to accept the LDS god as a real entity. I am not inviting you to bear a testimony saying "I know" but rather to share how you know.

[_Franktalk]

I am not sure any evidence would be accepted. I do not think that placing their fingers into the wounds of Christ would make a difference. This is why I write in general terms.

This is an interesting post seeing as you regard the CCC as one who is as lost to religious authority as you regard me lost to scientific authority.

I made no such claim. You are the one who says they require evidence. I am just repeating your own statements. I just used a type of evidence you would reject in my comment. I have no idea about CCC. Again I made no such claim. Your overreach in your posts is very common from you.

[_Franktalk]

Last time you tried to prove the fulfillment of prophecy, I showed that your math was wrong due to discrepancies in the gregorian calendar. But please, provide details instead of nebulous generalities. Or, am I supposed to just trust you?

Come now Steelhead, you fabricate an outcome of a discussion then wish me to enable you to do more of the same? I don't think so.

[_SteelHead]

So.... you are saying you got nothing?

I think John was beheaded by Connor McLeod. There can only be one!

[_Franktalk]

So.... you are saying you got nothing?

I think John was beheaded by Connor McLeod. There can only be one!

For you I have nothing.

[_SteelHead]

I'm not surprised.