Biden needs to step aside

[honorentheos]

Or had some Government help?

When you enter a country without permission of the owners, you're not an immigrant. You're an invader.

That's nonsense. But it is the terminology the administration is using to justify using military force and invoking wartime powers for the President. It's insane how easily you got in line and took up the chant.

Thanks ajax. You joined the mob that enabled the dismantling of democracy in favor of authoritarian rule. Grievance was the price of your birthright porridge.

[Chap]

Or had some Government help?

When you enter a country without permission of the owners, you're not an immigrant. You're an invader. If the invader defeats the owner, then the invader becomes the owner. You own a portion of the US. If you feel like you shouldn't or that others need it more than you, then you have a right to give it to them. But if you want to give my property away because you've unilaterally decided it should belong to someone else, don't be surprised if I declare war upon you to protect my property.

I wonder when ajax's ancestors entered the North American continent, and exactly what role they played thereafter?

[Markk]

Lol, Schmo calls me cuss words I have never even heard before, and I have been in construction for about 50 years.

You just don’t realize that you’re hearing them, because they’re being spoken in a different language. : )

Pinche cabrón! No lo sabía.

[Morley]

The art thread is about art. I won't address anything but art there, whether critical or appreciation. It's that simple. This is a free forum and you can discuss anything you like, where ever you like, and I support that.

Sure. Here it is, ported over here:

So, it hurt when I told you that I wasn’t fond of Bramblitt? Or when I suggested I thought that he wasn’t good enough to get any recognition at all, if he weren’t blind?

Lol...No, it just showed how you think and were being condescending given the thread. You are gentle compared to other folks here Morley, and whether you believe it or not I respect you. If I got offended over things said about me here I would not have been posting here for what....20 years?

Lol, Schmo calls me cuss words I have never even heard before, and I have been in construction of about 50 years.

I wasn't being condescending. I was being honest about my preferences. Before that, I’d tried to stand back a bit because I didn’t want to interfere with the flow. But, as you've seen, sometimes I can’t keep my mouth shut or my fingers off the keyboard.

It's apparent that I misunderstood your reasons for starting the art thread. You may have seen it as a safe space to celebrate what each of us finds beautiful in art. I saw it as a place to write about and discuss our personal opinions on art. The two can be very different things.

Art's a funny thing. While no one can agree about what should be important in aesthetics and technique, everyone considers themselves to be something of a lay expert about aesthetics and technique. These manifest in a way they wouldn't about, say, bridge building or quadratic equations. This shouldn't be surprising, given that even those with formal expertise in art often can't agree on these things.

Art critics and practicing artists often silently cringe when someone outside of the field tells them what they should be doing or either celebrates or criticizes a certain style or subject. Statements like "I don't know art, but I know what I like" and "My five-year-old could do that" are two of the fan favorites that make most artists want to shake their heads and walk away.

Most people involved in art carry some pretty strong ideas about which artists and genres they consider to be significant and relevant. That's probably because, being informed by education, practice, and experience, the urge to opine can often be difficult to throttle. You probably have the same fervor about architecture and construction. If I began waxing enthusiastic about the utility and beauty of spit entries or aluminum wiring, you might express an opinion suggesting I was something of an idiot. But then again, maybe you wouldn't.

It's hilarious, because in this thread, I actually thought that I was being pretty generous and mild about some of the stuff I have strong negative feelings about. While I have nowhere the talent for being as reasonable and tactful as Huckelberry, I do make an effort.

[Kishkumen]

Markk has a chip on his shoulder the size of a Sequoia. He is looking to be offended. Looking really hard to see whether you are condescending to him. He is the exact kind of grievance ruminator that embraces Trumpism. His grievance has been weaponized against him and us to become a tool in the oppression of all of us together. But he is too sore to see it.

[Some Schmo]

Markk has a chip on his shoulder the size of a Sequoia. He is looking to be offended. Looking really hard to see whether you are condescending to him. He is the exact kind of grievance ruminator that embraces Trumpism. His grievance has been weaponized against him and us to become a tool in the oppression of all of us together. But he is too sore to see it.

This is a perfect description of ceeboo. Maybe it's just part of the MAGA DNA.

[Kishkumen]

This is a perfect description of ceeboo. Maybe it's just part of the MAGA DNA.

I think it is part of the MAGA recipe. I don't know about DNA. MAGA takes those who have been disrespected by the elites of the country and gives them permission to get revenge. MAGA makes them feel powerful and justified in their revenge. According to MAGA, non-MAGA is wrong and deserves what it gets. The powerful grievance stokes the shame and hatred. The lust for revenge. And now they glory in hurting other people. They see Trump hurting others, and they rejoice to see the "law breakers" (anyone who can be deemed a law breaker on any technicality to excuse abusing them) "pay." When the noose is around all of our necks, they may regret being taken for a ride like this, but it will be too late.

[Markk]

The art thread is about art. I won't address anything but art there, whether critical or appreciation. It's that simple. This is a free forum and you can discuss anything you like, where ever you like, and I support that.

Sure. Here it is, ported over here:

Lol...No, it just showed how you think and were being condescending given the thread. You are gentle compared to other folks here Morley, and whether you believe it or not I respect you. If I got offended over things said about me here I would not have been posting here for what....20 years?

Lol, Schmo calls me cuss words I have never even heard before, and I have been in construction of about 50 years.

I wasn't being condescending. I was being honest about my preferences. Before that, I’d tried to stand back a bit because I didn’t want to interfere with the flow. But, as you've seen, sometimes I can’t keep my mouth shut or my fingers off the keyboard.

It's apparent that I misunderstood your reasons for starting the art thread. You may have seen it as a safe space to celebrate what each of us finds beautiful in art. I saw it as a place to write about and discuss our personal opinions on art. The two can be very different things.

Art's a funny thing. While no one can agree about what should be important in aesthetics and technique, everyone considers themselves to be something of a lay expert about aesthetics and technique. These manifest in a way they wouldn't about, say, bridge building or quadratic equations. This shouldn't be surprising, given that even those with formal expertise in art often can't agree on these things.

Art critics and practicing artists often silently cringe when someone outside of the field tells them what they should be doing or either celebrates or criticizes a certain style or subject. Statements like "I don't know art, but I know what I like" and "My five-year-old could do that" are two of the fan favorites that make most artists want to shake their heads and walk away.

Most people involved in art carry some pretty strong ideas about which artists and genres they consider to be significant and relevant. That's probably because, being informed by education, practice, and experience, the urge to opine can often be difficult to throttle. You probably have the same fervor about architecture and construction. If I began waxing enthusiastic about the utility and beauty of spit entries or aluminum wiring, you might express an opinion suggesting I was something of an idiot. But then again, maybe you wouldn't.

It's hilarious, because in this thread, I actually thought that I was being pretty generous and mild about some of the stuff I have strong negative feelings about. While I have nowhere the talent for being as reasonable and tactful as Huckelberry, I do make an effort.

Okay fair enough. And please criticize art all you like, and certainly do so on the art thread, I will also when it comes up. And talk politics or criticize me all you want there, that is fair also, my hypocrisy does not go so far as to bark about derailing threads, when we all do it here, I just won't respond to it there.

Thanks.

[Morley]

Okay fair enough. And please criticize art all you like, and certainly do so on the art thread, I will also when it comes up. And talk politics or criticize me all you want there, that is fair also, my hypocrisy does not go so far as to bark about derailing threads, when we all do it here, I just won't respond to it there.

Thanks.

Nice reply, Markk. Thanks.

[Doctor Steuss]

I guess that we can say the same thing about MAGA boat parades and J6 insurrectionists.

Not until they receive the same harsh punishments J6 "insurrectionists" received.

Harsh?

The pedophile Andrew Taake that Trump pardoned, that was re-arrested not even a month later trying to lure a child into having sex with him again, received only 6 years for trying to murder a police officer.

The guy who was killed trying to murder police officers after his pardon, Matthew Huttle, was sentenced to 6 months. The previous prison sentence he served for 2.5 years for beating his 3 year old was more "harsh" than his sentence for trying to overthrow America's democracy.

"Harsh." Sure glad Trump unleashed a score of pedophiles, rapists, and cop killers onto the streets of America.

When MAGA sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.