Boy, was I wrong

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_Chap
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Re: Boy, was I wrong

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wenglund wrote: .... my objective in posting the various comments wasn't just to lend credence to the perception of a threat, but also to demonstrate that this surreal affair was about more than just getting an apology and improving MD dialogue. ...


Oh good. So wenglund is telling us in advance that we need not expect that he will attempt to substantiate his previous suggestions that the Maxwell Institute dumped Schryver because someone had threatened them, not because (as David Bokovoy's correspondent stated) they just found Schryver's behavior below the standards they expected.

So it's all over bar the endless irrelevant multi-part posts, which will resume on Monday.

Perhaps by then the world may have come to an end?
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wenglund wrote: my objective in posting the various comments wasn't just to lend credence to the perception of a threat, but also to demonstrate that this surreal affair was about more than just getting an apology and improving MD dialogue.


MsJack was pretty clear about her objectives, Wade. It had to do (unless I'm seriously misunderstanding her) with all the problems related to Will's misogyny, and how that might reflect upon both the Maxwell Institute (were they to publish his stuff) and Mopologetics as a whole. I'm sure that "getting an apology and improving MD dialogue" might have been nice side-effects of all of this, but I've always understood MsJack's purpose to be sounding a clarion call.
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Re: Boy, was I wrong

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One finally word before I take off for the weekend. I don't wish to disturb Kevin while he is tilting windmills, and so I was wonder if someone would kindly take him aside and let him know that my objective in posting the various comments wasn't just to lend credence to the perception of a threat, but also to demonstrate that this surreal affair was about more than just getting an apology and improving MD dialogue.


I know exactly what you're doing, which is precisely your problem since I'm not the kinda guy who let's you get away with it. You now refer to a "surreal affair" which is what exactly? You're wanting to conflate MsJack's Op Ed with your paranoid interpretations of comments from various posters over the past couple of months. You won't get away with this. MsJack stated her purpose quite clearly, and you have done nothing except ignore this while trying to make it seem like there has been some massive conspiracy among apostate posters, to destroy Will's aspirations of being published. And after the show is over, and the debacle comes to a close, you come running back here with some mysterious "email" from God knows who, claiming all sorts of idiotic conspiracy theories that conveniently claim your suspicions were true. And then, in true idiotic fashion, you insist that we should be willing to accept this email's claims, simply because we accepted Bokovoy's email. This is a non sequitur of course, but I know you do not understand basic logic.

You're like a child who is always trying to create these "gotcha" moments based on convoluted game plans that almost always backfire in your face. When this happens, you go back to the usual complaint that everyone has misunderstood you. You make sure you're vague enough in all your posts so you can come back and declare everything we "misunderstood" to be a "false assertion" or "baseless assumption" etc. These are your own "weasle" phrases you need because you think it makes you look like the guy who is outsmarting everyone else.

Yes, he should have known that from my clear English statements before


What the hell makes you think you present unambiguous, "clear English statements"? Your say-so? Didn't you already admit suffering numerous learning disabilities, such as dyslexia? I was a professor of English for years, and I can say with a straight face, trying to figure out what the hell you're saying is usually an adventure in and of itself. And a current professor is on another thread complaining about how "opaque" your communications are in general. So get with the program already and stop blaming everyone else for your failure to convey your thoughts unambiguously. Hell you even had Droopy thinking you were on his side, accusing Bokovoy of lying instead of Wilbur.

but evidently he is having more than a few challenges grasping simple English, and so I am not sure what language to suggest you use to try and get through to him. Good luck.


To me wade? You're going to sit there and pretend I'm the only person o this forum who has a difficult time trying to converse with you? You talk to these other people as if they agree with you, but you really have no one on your side but maybe droops.

Remember wade, you're the guy, who just last night, read this comment:

Why did William panic by writing numerous LDS scholars to find out what was being said about you so you could preempt their efforts? Gee and Hauglid both sent Bokovoy a copy of the email you sent out to them trying to dig for information about what's been said.


And then you had an extremely difficult time imagining what I could have possibly meant by the word "their." Even though "Gee and Hauglid" was most obviously who I was referring to -as any nine year old would have been able to deduce - you were acting as if you had caught me in a snare since, as you spat: "David Bokovoy is only one person. Who else were you referring to in using the plural 'their'"?

So no wade, you don't get to give English lessons to anyone. You need to take a few, it would seem.
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Re: Boy, was I wrong

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I would say that Kevin knows his Wade tactics quite well.
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I offer the following Wadeisms for your enjoyment. Each statement will be followed by Wade’s interpretation thereof.

1. If we don’t do something about social security, it will go bankrupt one day. Wadeism: If you don’t do what I want I will remove all the money from social security.
2. If you don’t study for your test, you will fail. Wadeism: if you don’t do what I want, I will call up your teacher and tell him/her to give you a failing grade.
3. If you’re not careful with credit cards, you can accumulate a significant burden of debt. Wadeism: If you don’t do what I want, I will use your credit card and run the debt up on it.
4. If you drink and drive, you could end up having an accident. Wadeism: If you drink and drive, I will ram my car into yours.
5. If you have unprotected sex, a pregnancy may result. Wadeism: If you have unprotected sex, I will use my super magical powers to make sure pregnancy results.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.

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_beastie
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MrStakhanovite wrote:
You can never get too much credit beastie.


Nah, it doesn't count cuz I had to remind you. ;)
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Re: Boy, was I wrong

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Kishkumen wrote:I would say that Kevin knows his Wade tactics quite well.

Both you and Kevin show a level of patience and long-suffering with Wade that I will never be able to muster.
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