DCP Laughs in the Face of Tragedy

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_wenglund
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Mister Scratch wrote:
wenglund wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:
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Tal Bachman wrote:Scratch - with all respect, I think your expectations are way too high here. People suck - once we accept that, then everything you're describing will actually seem fantastic. :P


Ironically, I tend to view people, for the most part, almost the opposite of what you state here, though with the same result. I consider people in general to be good and descent and loving and kind, and so the things being described (not to be confused with the way in which they are being described here) actually also strike me as fantastic--both meeting and exceeding my high expectations.

Perhaps this is a case of us respectively seeing the glass half empty/full. To each their own. ;-)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


Does the opportunistic use of this tragedy for purposes of Church PR strike you as "fantastic"?


Your question presupposes motives (glass half empty?) that I don't view in the same that way that you do, so I can't rationally answer it as asked.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


Oh? Then what were the motives, Wade?


Since I can't read minds, I am unwilling to judge the motives, and will take the various parties at their word.

Besides, it was the observable actions that I had in mind as "fantastic", and was please to have been uplifted by the report given thereof by Dr. Peterson.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-
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wenglund wrote:Since I can't read minds, I am unwilling to judge the motives, and will take the various parties at their word.


Oh, gee---me too? Do I get the benefit of your alleged "open-mindedness," Wade? No, I rather doubt it. You have never extended such a courtesy to me. You engaged in "mind-reading" from the very start, beginning with our first interaction on Kevin Graham's messageboard. Did you ever atone for that, I wonder?

Besides, it was the observable actions that I had in mind as "fantastic", and was please to have been uplifted by the report given thereof by Dr. Peterson.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


What actions did you "observe"? One of the things I "observed" was a statement about how "pleased" DCP was that this whole thing was receiving "media coverage." Does that not seem a trifle bit vain to you? Personally, I seen nothing wrong with the media coverage per se. Nor do I see anything wrong with DCP delivering a report on how proud he was of his ward members. But, all of this, in my opinion, crosses a line when he begins praising the "media attention," and begins to use the whole tragedy as a means of engaging in Church PR. That just seems opportunistic, imvho.
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LifeOnaPlate wrote:
You've never heard my magnum opus, Pet Sounds? Come on, now.



Could you bark a few notes to refresh our memories?
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Mister Scratch wrote:
wenglund wrote:Since I can't read minds, I am unwilling to judge the motives, and will take the various parties at their word.


Oh, gee---me too? Do I get the benefit of your alleged "open-mindedness," Wade? No, I rather doubt it. You have never extended such a courtesy to me. You engaged in "mind-reading" from the very start, beginning with our first interaction on Kevin Graham's messageboard. Did you ever atone for that, I wonder?

Besides, it was the observable actions that I had in mind as "fantastic", and was please to have been uplifted by the report given thereof by Dr. Peterson.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


What actions did you "observe"? One of the things I "observed" was a statement about how "pleased" DCP was that this whole thing was receiving "media coverage." Does that not seem a trifle bit vain to you? Personally, I seen nothing wrong with the media coverage per se. Nor do I see anything wrong with DCP delivering a report on how proud he was of his ward members. But, all of this, in my opinion, crosses a line when he begins praising the "media attention," and begins to use the whole tragedy as a means of engaging in Church PR. That just seems opportunistic, imvho.


How is this different from your 'birdies' who drop you little tips because they want you to spin it into negative Church PR?
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics
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wenglund wrote:
Besides, it was the observable actions that I had in mind as "fantastic", and was please to have been uplifted by the report given thereof by Dr. Peterson.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


Yes, It sounds like a job well done in responding to this tragedy.

I have missed you Wade. Hope you keep posting here.
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Mister Scratch wrote:Nehor, I realize that you are just lashing out. You resent being called "nebbish," and you resent getting teased about looking like a wanker. So, hey: no biggie. Adding "hypocrisy" to your list of descriptors really is no great matter.


Don't all men look like wankers? I bet I certainly do. Can we get off the anti-masturbator kick por favor?

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moksha wrote:
LifeOnaPlate wrote:
You've never heard my magnum opus, Pet Sounds? Come on, now.



Could you bark a few notes to refresh our memories?


Oh, you!
One moment in annihilation's waste,
one moment, of the well of life to taste-
The stars are setting and the caravan
starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste!

-Omar Khayaam

*Be on the lookout for the forthcoming album from Jiminy Finn and the Moneydiggers.*
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Mister Scratch wrote:
wenglund wrote:Since I can't read minds, I am unwilling to judge the motives, and will take the various parties at their word.


Oh, gee---me too? Do I get the benefit of your alleged "open-mindedness," Wade? No, I rather doubt it. You have never extended such a courtesy to me. You engaged in "mind-reading" from the very start, beginning with our first interaction on Kevin Graham's messageboard. Did you ever atone for that, I wonder?


I'm not sure about me "atoning" (let alone the relevance of this last rant from you), but I have certainly moved on from those interactions years ago--having found such to be in most everyone's interest. Perhaps in time you will be able to move on as well. For your sake I hope so.

Besides, it was the observable actions that I had in mind as "fantastic", and was please to have been uplifted by the report given thereof by Dr. Peterson.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


What actions did you "observe"? One of the things I "observed" was a statement about how "pleased" DCP was that this whole thing was receiving "media coverage." Does that not seem a trifle bit vain to you? Personally, I seen nothing wrong with the media coverage per se. Nor do I see anything wrong with DCP delivering a report on how proud he was of his ward members. But, all of this, in my opinion, crosses a line when he begins praising the "media attention," and begins to use the whole tragedy as a means of engaging in Church PR. That just seems opportunistic, imvho.


Then we differ on that seemngly trite point. I am fine with that.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-
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wenglund wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:
What actions did you "observe"? One of the things I "observed" was a statement about how "pleased" DCP was that this whole thing was receiving "media coverage." Does that not seem a trifle bit vain to you? Personally, I seen nothing wrong with the media coverage per se. Nor do I see anything wrong with DCP delivering a report on how proud he was of his ward members. But, all of this, in my opinion, crosses a line when he begins praising the "media attention," and begins to use the whole tragedy as a means of engaging in Church PR. That just seems opportunistic, imvho.


Then we differ on that seemngly trite point. I am fine with that.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


How do we "differ," Wade? How do you view the drawing of attention to the "media coverage"?
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Mister Scratch wrote:
wenglund wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:
What actions did you "observe"? One of the things I "observed" was a statement about how "pleased" DCP was that this whole thing was receiving "media coverage." Does that not seem a trifle bit vain to you? Personally, I seen nothing wrong with the media coverage per se. Nor do I see anything wrong with DCP delivering a report on how proud he was of his ward members. But, all of this, in my opinion, crosses a line when he begins praising the "media attention," and begins to use the whole tragedy as a means of engaging in Church PR. That just seems opportunistic, imvho.


Then we differ on that seemngly trite point. I am fine with that.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


How do we "differ," Wade? How do you view the drawing of attention to the "media coverage"?


We differ in that I haven't given it any thought and don't think it worthy of discussion.

To each their own.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-
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