Tal Bachman wrote:Randy Keyes, I am very sorry to say, did not tell the truth about our meeting, Daniel.
I'm sorry to say that I don't regard you as credible on that question, Tal. Too much personal experience of you to do that.
With the interviews that both of you gave for PBS, I'd venture to guess that the vast majority viewed Tal as being more genuine than yourself.
I'd venture to say Tal came across as strange to Mormons and non-Mormons alike. His suicide bomber comment was completely over the top. (As was his comment on how dangerous his mission was and how bravely he faced all those poisonous frogs.)
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One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
marg wrote:And Dan Peterson is a nut case, so ignore him. We all know what he's about.
This is not conducive to productive dialog.
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
Coggins7 wrote:Yes my little Diplodocus, but "Pay Lay Ale" were not the words spoken.
Are you simply disagreeing with such a phonetic spelling, or being intentionally obtuse?
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
Coggins7 wrote:Yes my little Diplodocus, but "Pay Lay Ale" were not the words spoken.
Are you simply disagreeing with such a phonetic spelling, or being intentionally obtuse?
What alphabet does adamic use, the Hebrew alphabet or the Deseret Alphabet?
It uses binary.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
Coggins7 wrote:Yes my little Diplodocus, but "Pay Lay Ale" were not the words spoken.
Are you simply disagreeing with such a phonetic spelling, or being intentionally obtuse?
Clarification request: Am I right in thinking that no normal temple 'patron' would ever see these words written down in any kind of 'official' version'?
If I am right, the question of spelling is in itself irrelevant, so long as the sound of what was said is reasonably represented. (I mean that Pe Le El might do just as well as Pay Lay Ale for a North American English speaker).
If I am wrong, where and for whom does/did an official written version exist?
I don't think coggins has been to the temple at all. In fact, I doubt he's ever been active. He denies a widely known phrase from the temple, he doesn't understand the LDS principle of repentance... I'm willing to believe he's LDS and a true believer, in his own way. But I no longer believe he's ever been fully active in the church.
I can't believe anyone would lie about something so stupid and well-known. I guess it is possible his brain has been pickled over the years. However, at this point, I think coggs is the ultimate poser, which would also explain why he constantly projects
posing onto others.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.