They can speculate but I am not permitted to explain

[_Jersey Girl]

Scratch,

Let's assume guilt regarding your claims about Daniel and D. Michael Quinn.

For what purpose would he apologize to Quinn on a message board?

How do you know he hasn't already apologized to Quinn privately?

[_Daniel Peterson]

Oh? Do Infymus and SusieQ, among may others, share your opinion?

I don't know, and I don't much care.

Infymus's notes to me, including his obscene comments about my wife, contained no confidential information, and I revealed none.

SusieQ initiated correspondence with me and then, when our exchange ended, proceeded to mischaracterize my replies to her in a grossly dishonest way on the so-called "Recovery" board, where I was not permitted to reply. After a full year of this, I consulted with friends about the ownership of such correspondence and about the ethics of making it public. Consistent with their advice, and feeling that the only practical response to her repeated slanders was to make the correspondence public, entire and unedited, I offered the material to the folks at SHIELDS. Other than permitting her to continue slandering me unchallenged, I didn't feel that I had much of an alternative. I still feel that I did what was necessary, and that I was entirely within my legal and ethical rights to do so.

I don't appreciate being defamed, and I'm not always inclined to simply put up with it. You, of all people, should understand that by now.

At the time, did Ray A appreciate your "privately sharing" emails he'd sent you?

He's on this board. Ask him what he thinks of me.

I'm not going to discuss the Quinn matter with you any more. I've made my position clear in approximately a thousand posts on probably a dozen threads that you've launched on the topic. I deny all of your accusations, as I always have.

[_moksha]

I know, just "choose to believe", right? I never have understood what that means, exactly.

Sometimes you need to step back and decide exactly what you believe and why it is important to you. For instance, in my case I decided years ago that I believed in God and over time the Christian understanding of God seemed most compelling to me. On Sunday in Sacrament meeting, I feel like I am having a communion with God during our Eucharist. I appreciate and look forward to that experience for it helps nourish me. Don't know if that works for you since each of us needs to define our faith and values individually. Best wishes on finding your path for the spiritual journey.

[_Rollo Tomasi]

mms, if there's anything I can ever do to help you, please don't hesitate to write to me via a PM, or, perhaps better, via daniel_peterson@BYU.edu.

I'm not the monster that some here delight in portraying me to be, and I would be more than happy to help, or to try to locate help, if I'm able.

Beware, mms. We know that the SCMC has used DCP in the past to deal with a doubting member, and we all well remember how he and rcrocket ratted out an anonymous post by GoodK to the latter's father. Though a bishop who presumably understands confidentiality, DCP cannot be trusted (at least not by anyone on this bb). Be careful. Do not give DCP your in real life information ... unless you don't care if he rats you out.

[_Rollo Tomasi]

So....what happened when you tried to talk to your stepfather? Did he just refuse to acknowledge you, or what?

I know...none of my business...just curious. I hope things work out. I hate seeing families torn apart, and although I have respect for both Bob and DCP, I flat-out disagree with their decision in acting the way they did in this case.

He disowned me, basically. Via email.

I may post a blog about it, eventually.

As we all expected, DCP's and rcrocket's interference in a private family affair has caused even greater estrangement and bitterness. Well done, bishops!

[_Rollo Tomasi]

I haven't spoken to my step dad since that entire fiasco. Actually, he hasn't spoken to me. Thanks again, bishops.

Come on, GoodK. You and I both know . . . Well, you and I both know, don't we?

Nice to see that Bishop Dan is still in the GoodK family loop. What a friggin' busybody.

[_Rollo Tomasi]

I would not, however, violate a confidence.

This is a classic sig line if I ever saw one. Methinks that DCP, the quintessential busybody and gossip, is trying to make a funny.

[_Yoda]

Liz is a part time therapist..she doesn't like seeing families torn apart...but hers was because her brother did not go on a mission but instead went to college..or maybe he went in the army...anywho..her own family has been torn apart as well ...Her hubby holds a high position in the church..and if anyone found out her true Identity her family would be torn apart again....she has however asked her huubies permission to be a moderator on this board...but they are not going to let her daughters be exposed to internet..or the you tube either...

I'm not sure if it is your reading comprehension which is faulty, or your memory. My guess is both. Let me add some corrections to the many things you got wrong with your statements here:

1. Liz is a part time therapist I've never claimed to be a part-time therapist. I genuinely like GoodK, have developed a friendship with him over the time he has posted here, and was genuinely concerned about his situation. Of course, you haven't posted here in quite some time, so you probably would have no knowledge of that fact. The snippy comment about my being a part-time therapist is unjustified. I offered him no advice, simply compassion and empathy.

2. but hers was because her brother did not go on a mission but instead went to college..or maybe he went in the army...anywho..her own family has been torn apart as well All I can comment here is, WTF??? My family was not torn apart. I'm not sure where you got this idea. I believe that I did mention that my brother did not choose to serve a mission. He completed his degree instead. My father, who is a convert to the Church was fine with my brother's choice. He did make it clear, however, that if my brother had desired to serve a mission, he would have paid for it.

3. Her hubby holds a high position in the church..and if anyone found out her true Identity her family would be torn apart again.... My husband teaches the High Priest lesson on Sundays. I don't know that you would call that a "high position", but all callings are important. ;) As far as my true identity is concerned, I was the victim of an Internet stalker about 10 years ago when I was naïve enough to use my real name when participating on a different bulletin board. After that incident, I have used a pseudonym on message boards. However, there are several here who are aware of my real name.

4. she has however asked her huubies permission to be a moderator on this board. The day I ask my husband permission to do anything is the day he will probably have heart failure from pure shock. LOL However, yes, he is aware that I am a Moderator for this board, and is fine with it.

5. but they are not going to let her daughters be exposed to internet..or the you tube either.. Again....WTF?? My daughters both have email, MySpace, and Facebook accounts, so they are hardly Internet deprived.

[_Daniel Peterson]

Beware, mms. We know that the SCMC has used DCP in the past to deal with a doubting member

We chatted for two or three hours.

He talked with me of his own free will, and was at complete liberty to quit the conversation at any moment he chose.

So far as I'm aware, he survived to tell the harrowing tale. He waved goodbye when he got into his car, and seemed unharmed.

The way in which you and Master Scartch have twisted and transmogrified this harmless little story is truly a wonder to behold, and it says far, far more about the two of you than it does about me.

nd we all well remember how he and rcrocket ratted out an anonymous post by GoodK to the latter's father. Though a bishop who presumably understands confidentiality, DCP cannot be trusted (at least not by anyone on this bb). Be careful. Do not give DCP your in real life information ... unless you don't care if he rats you out.

If you knew the situation . . . No. Never mind. If a reasonable person knew the situation, that person would feel differently.

As we all expected, DCP's and rcrocket's interference in a private family affair has caused even greater estrangement and bitterness. Well done, bishops!

You don't know what you're talking about.

Nice to see that Bishop Dan is still in the GoodK family loop. What a friggin' busybody.

His father is a friend of mine, and has been a friend of mine for perhaps twenty years or more.

I realize that Master Scartch may not have any friends, but I didn't realize that the concept might be strange to Mini-Scartch, as well.

DCP, the quintessential busybody and gossip

To anybody who actually knew me, that description would be simply hilarious.

[_GoodK]

Come on, GoodK. You and I both know . . . Well, you and I both know, don't we?

Excuse me?

Stop pretending like you know some sort of damning detail or secret. You don't.