How do you deal with the real history on Joseph Smith?

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Re: How do you deal with the real history on Joseph Smith?

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Bob Loblaw wrote:
just me wrote:Hmmm. One could say the same thing about the men and women who "never said anything bad" about Joseph. Perhaps they were just having a good day and you missed the negative diary entry.

Duh!

by the way, you're dismissive attitude towards the feelings of a young woman and how you paint young women is no surprise. I've long known you to be sexist and it is great that you continue to show people.


Yep. why me sees moral equivalence in a 14-year-old girl being pressured (heavily) into accepting a middle-aged man as her husband and then being isolated and prohibited from being a normal young woman and a petulant teenager being told she can't go to the dance tonight. Sexist? Yes, but the lack of perspective and morality is far worse, in my opinion.


Oh, there is so much to comment on. I know!

Helen is old enough to make the decision (after being heavily coerced) to marry a married man (a trusted authority figure and friend of her father) but not mature enough for us to accept her feelings on the matter.

Good god.
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Re: How do you deal with the real history on Joseph Smith?

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Drifting wrote:
Nightlion wrote:Your loss because you did not savor that which he did accomplish and neither do the Mormons and they never will get it right. PUNKS everyone.


What did Joseph actually accomplish?


The restoration of the gospel. First by coming unto God with sufficient faith himself when a young lad. Then, being taught of God since. What he did was water the ground where seeds unto Zion would sprout in its time.

He did not accomplish Zion. But without him Zion would never come. And come it shall. Forget about the LDS Church or any church that honors him. They are all fallen into the ditch together and cannot find the power of Zion or even desire to. Still................wait for it.

From: A MOMENT IN TIME (A ZION MUSICAL FANTASY by James Q. Muir (c)1993
Rium, Kasemaj and Croyden join together to majestically command the earth to open raising their arms towards the distance together as a highway comes up as if they were Moses commanding the Red Sea to divide. A distant mountain of rock and ice opens at its base behind them where a dim light appears.
The entire host stands up in transparent yet emerald armor that is a shock to behold (in the greatest production they would arise giants in their armor) with futuristic weapons in hand and many banners unfurled, bearing sedan chests of treasures, and another goes out front with curtains draped around only suggesting the ARK OF THE COVENANT. It is floating mid air yet a tremendous weight. Lightning flashes from it. A cosmic hum pulses. A mighty hosts begins a deliberate slow cadence making each step a certainty of power and faith, that is reflected in the countenance of each with their eyes fixed. The path of the march takes them partially through the audience as some seating area was disguised from the beginning to become this path.


(COMPANY)
RISE ZION LEAVE THIS PEACEFUL CRADLE
GOD OF HOSTS LEAD US TO BATTLE
LAY THE FOREIGN PREY BEFORE US
SHOUT HOSANNAS AND PRAISE IN CHORUS

(CHORUS repeats)
ZION ALIVE

(COMPANY)
ZION RISE IN
BEAUTY’S POWER
STAND TO CONQUER
IN THIS HOUR
BRING THE TREASURE
HAUL IT OVER
SMITE THE ROCKS
AND ICE BEFORE US
RISE UP TO MESSIAH’S HONOR
RISE AND OVERTHROW THEIR TOWERS
RISE WE HAVE THIS TIME
TO GO OVER
SHAKE THE WORLD
ZION IS COMING OVER HOME

The main characters and a host of marchers sing the finale and go on the march. Young Nascent is spotted in vignette, already near the outer world excitedly pointing seeing Jerusalem, stars and the crescent moon appears behind him as he stops reflectively to finish it all.

(NASCENT)
ZION LOOK UP
ZION LOOK DOWN
I WILL REMEMBER
THIS MOMENT IN TIME

As the godly response answers back the echo of the march comes up three times and fades.

[the light around Nascent fades to black with the last echo]

[curtain]
The End
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