FIRM Exults in "Firing" of Heartland Model Critics

[_hobo1512]

Please post a scan of any other document which, in your view, may be taken to represent the views of the First Presidency with the same degree of authority as the letter signed by F. Michael Watson, Secretary to the First Presidency, posted above.

Yeah!! What you said....LOL

[_hobo1512]

This is the only other thing I could find.



However, it goes back to what I questioned earlier.

The signed letter has the church's name on it, along with the office of the president, etc. The fax however doesn't have all of this.

Every major corporation I have worked for has always had standardized forms. It was the same information and design whether it was on letterhead, fax covers, or freebie give aways.

This just seems odd to me.

Plus, it's unsigned, and you can spoof any information on the fax information at the top.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

I don't know if you killed the conversation, but you certainly demonstrated that you're not interested in the facts of the matter.

Regards,
Pahoran

[_hobo1512]

I don't know if you killed the conversation, but you certainly demonstrated that you're not interested in the facts of the matter.


Regards,
Pahoran

What I have done is demonstrate, with a valid church document something in opposition to your claim.

You on the other hand, have provided nothing to sustain your position other than rhetoric.

I would be more than happy to look at a valid church document that supercedes this one.

[_Racer]

This is the only other thing I could find.



However, it goes back to what I questioned earlier.

The signed letter has the church's name on it, along with the office of the president, etc. The fax however doesn't have all of this.

Every major corporation I have worked for has always had standardized forms. It was the same information and design whether it was on letterhead, fax covers, or freebie give aways.

This just seems odd to me.

Plus, it's unsigned, and you can spoof any information on the fax information at the top.

This document was an obvious ruse put forth by the brethren as a test of faith to the membership. Those who have the spirit recognize the test and know as any faithful saint that LGT is true. Those who question are easily mislead and must repent. This is kinda like how God planted 100 million year old dino bones in the Earth to test our faith that the true age of the Earth is really 6000 years.

[_hobo1512]

This is the only other thing I could find.



However, it goes back to what I questioned earlier.

The signed letter has the church's name on it, along with the office of the president, etc. The fax however doesn't have all of this.

Every major corporation I have worked for has always had standardized forms. It was the same information and design whether it was on letterhead, fax covers, or freebie give aways.

This just seems odd to me.

Plus, it's unsigned, and you can spoof any information on the fax information at the top.

This document was an obvious ruse put forth by the brethren as a test of faith to the membership. Those who have the spirit recognize the test and know as any faithful saint that LGT is true. Those who question are easily mislead and must repent. This is kinda like how God planted 100 million year old dino bones in the Earth to test our faith that the true age of the Earth is really 6000 years.

I agree, but Pahoran indicated, or at least gave the impression that there is something from the First Presidency that supercedes this.

Or did I misinterpret what he was saying?

[_EAllusion]

I realise that as an anti-Mormon, you'd love the so-called "heartland" model to become the accepted interpretation of Book of Mormon geography; it's such an easy target, after all.

Mormonism is a target-rich environment.

[Guest]

Pahoran indicated, or at least gave the impression that there is something from the First Presidency that supercedes this.

Apparently the unsigned fax doesn't just supersede the letter signed by F. Michael Watson, Secretary to the First Presidency:

Your attempt to pre-empt the use of the superseding document demonstrates that you know perfectly well that it eviscerates the discarded Watson letter.

The Watson letter is now apparently also eviscerated and discarded! Wow - who knew that an unsigned fax could do so much?

(Edited to fix quote)

[_sock puppet]

Did I kill the conversation?

How? By posting a scan of a document you know perfectly well does not represent the actual position of the Church?

I don't know if you killed the conversation, but you certainly demonstrated that you're not interested in the facts of the matter.

Oops, my bad.

Indeed.

Regards,
Pahoran

I suppose hobo1512 knows perfectly well that the only Watson letter, the 1990 one, does not represent the actual position of the Church of Daniel Peterson and William Hamblin.

However, that 1990, only Watson letter is the most recent, official pronouncement of the ecclesiastical mouthpiece for the FP of the LDS Church. It has neither been rescinded or superseded. Anyone disputing that is spouting LDS heresies.

[_Yoda]

I realise that as an anti-Mormon, you'd love the so-called "heartland" model to become the accepted interpretation of Book of Mormon geography; it's such an easy target, after all.

Mormonism is a target-rich environment.

Why would it be such a coup for anti-Mormons if the standing of the Church matches Joseph Smith's interpretation?

I have always felt that the Book of Mormon took place in the US.