Gunnar wrote:I agree. Trump could hardly have more surely guaranteed that outcome if that had been his actual intent.
I think Trump still shares the Breitbart goal of bringing an end to the US as we know it, so a right-wing nationalist state or set of states can emerge. Part of that goal would be to damage US relations with its allies and the rest of the world.
What I don't understand is why Trump is suddenly trusting government intelligence agencies.
He could have simply asked Iran what their part was in the protests and I'm sure he'd come back with "They said they didn't do it."
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Jersey Girl wrote:I don't even know how this started or why it started.
There was this Shah in Iran...
And before the Shah became the West's favorite ruler of Iran, he had an elected secular and quite popular prime minister called Mohammad Mosaddegh.
An author, administrator, lawyer and prominent parliamentarian, his administration introduced a range of social and political measures such as social security, land reforms and higher taxes including the introduction of taxation of the rent on land. His government's most significant policy, however, was the nationalization of the Iranian oil industry, which had been built by the British on Persian lands since 1913 through the Anglo-Persian Oil Company (APOC/AIOC) (later British Petroleum and BP).
But he pursued policies aimed at at Iran having control of its own oil production, so he was overthrown in 1953 by a CIA backed coup.
Many Iranians still think about that, and resent it a lot. Is that surprising?
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Icarus wrote:What I don't understand is why Trump is suddenly trusting government intelligence agencies.
He could have simply asked Iran what their part was in the protests and I'm sure he'd come back with "They said they didn't do it."
so.. when he didn't trust Intelligence Agencies- you were outraged when he did trust Intelligence Agencies- you were outraged
ok, now it makes sense why you are now coming out in support of Iran and in defense of a terrorist supporting Iranian General.
Please, keep your hair fire going until at least November 4th 2020.
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Icarus wrote:What I don't understand is why Trump is suddenly trusting government intelligence agencies.
He could have simply asked Iran what their part was in the protests and I'm sure he'd come back with "They said they didn't do it."
Putin is Trump's buddy. So no matter what the intelligence people say, what Putin says goes.
That whatsisname general from Irania - when has he ever done Trump a favor? So if Trump needs to distract attention from the latest embarrassing emails, he gets droned to divert the news cycle.
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Chap wrote:But he pursued policies aimed at at Iran having control of its own oil production, so he was overthrown in 1953 by a CIA backed coup.
Many Iranians still think about that, and resent it a lot. Is that surprising?
Don't forget British Petroleum, Chap.
Ermm ... I didn't:
Chap wrote:His government's most significant policy, however, was the nationalization of the Iranian oil industry, which had been built by the British on Persian lands since 1913 through the Anglo-Persian Oil Company (APOC/AIOC) (later British Petroleum and BP).
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Given the US was asked for a favor after British attempts to stop Iranian nationalization of their oil reserves, and the CIA operation that led to Mossadegh being overthrown and replaced with the Shah wasn't the idea of the CIA but the British, it seemed like a fairly big gap in your presentation.
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I agree. Trump could hardly have more surely guaranteed that outcome if that had been his actual intent.
Since I'm not really close to the news, I wasn't aware of it on the morning it went down, and my right-wing friend told me about it on my morning walk. Within what must have been less than thirty seconds of opening his mouth to inform me of the action, he was already blaming Obama for nuclear war that is sure to ensue. It appears in the fantasy world he lives in, that a nuclear war is an anticipated outcome in order to show how wrong Obama was.
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