Forget Antifa - the real danger is from the Fa

The Off-Topic forum for anything non-LDS related, such as sports or politics. Rated PG through PG-13.
_Doctor CamNC4Me
_Emeritus
Posts: 21663
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:02 am

Re: Forget Antifa - the real danger is from the Fa

Post by _Doctor CamNC4Me »

Who are you talking about, specifically, subgenius?

- Doc
_Chap
_Emeritus
Posts: 14190
Joined: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:23 am

Re: Forget Antifa - the real danger is from the Fa

Post by _Chap »

subgenius wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:14 pm
[people] who refuse to accept the results of the 2016 election, are terrified that Trump won't accept the results of the 2020 election
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:27 pm
Who are you talking about, specifically, subgenius?
Good question DrC. I know of a lot of people who did not like the results of the 2016 election, but despite the fact that Trump won 3 million less popular votes than Clinton (Trump has made it clear that he hates that fact ...) I've not come across any significant group who deny that since Trump won in the electoral college he was constitutionally elected president. Of course, whether he was constitutionally elected is a quite separate question from whether the electoral college provides a suitable means of electing a president in 21st century America, or whether Trump has performed satisfactorily as president. At present there seem to be a large proportion of Americans who think that he has not.

To believe that there is a substantial risk that Trump might refuse to accept the result of the November 2020 election if it goes against him seems a matter of cool rationality - since in a recent interview he explicitly refused to state that he would accept the election result, whatever way it turned out. So what's wrong with taking him at his word?
Zadok:
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
_Gunnar
_Emeritus
Posts: 6315
Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:17 am

Re: Forget Antifa - the real danger is from the Fa

Post by _Gunnar »

I predict that the greater the margin by which Trump loses the election, the harder he will double down and triple down on insisting that the election was somehow rigged, and even try to claim that the very size of the margin of victory for Biden was only further proof of that.

However, If anyone is trying to rig the election in their own favor, it is the Republicans, who are doing their darnedest to purge official voter registration rolls of those less likely to vote Republican. Voter purges: are Republicans trying to rig the 2020 election?
In 2017 the then secretary of state, Brian Kemp, removed more 500,000 from voter rolls and a month before the Gubernatorial election in 2018 he held up registrations of 53,000 under the state’s “exact match” law where a misplaced hyphen or comma in a voter registration record could mean more obstacles for someone to vote. Brian Kemp stood in that election and defeated Stacy Abrams by just 55,000 votes. Abrams later called Kemp a “remarkable architect of voter suppression”.
Trump's determination to prevent voting by mail is a blatantly obvious part of his plan to skew the election in his favor. This may turn out to backfire on him, though, as at least as many Republicans as Democrats would be discouraged from voting without the option of voting by mail. A few red states, notably Utah, for example, already have universal or nearly universal voting by mail.
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.

“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
Post Reply