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drumdude wrote:
Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:20 am
Dr. Shades wrote:
Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:24 am

Can team members ever disagree with each other?

In the issue of "The Utah Lighthouse Messenger" wherein they discussed the Salamander Letter, Jerald wrote a piece outlining why he believed it wasn't authentic, while Sandra wrote a piece outlining why she believes it was authentic. Same magazine, two different opinions. One was correct, the other wasn't. Published as a team.
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I looked for this issue of the Messenger (which was indeed the Salt Lake City Messenger) but couldn't find what Shades described. Jerald wrote a paper called "The Money Digging Letters" in which he set out his analysis. Although several issues of the Messenger refer to that paper, I couldn't find it on the site. I could not tell whether Sandra had stated a position in that paper.
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I looked for this issue of the Messenger (which was indeed the Salt Lake City Messenger) but couldn't find what Shades described. Jerald wrote a paper called "The Money Digging Letters" in which he set out his analysis. Although several issues of the Messenger refer to that paper, I couldn't find it on the site. I could not tell whether Sandra had stated a position in that paper.
I had to order the back issue in hardcopy. It does indeed exist.
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Dr. Shades wrote: I had to order the back issue in hardcopy. It does indeed exist.

Mmm hmm, like the “Utah Lighthouse Messenger” existed?
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Informant wrote:
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Dr. Shades wrote:I had to order the back issue in hardcopy. It does indeed exist.
Mmm hmm, like the “Utah Lighthouse Messenger” existed?
If you live in Utah, send me a private message. I’ll give you my address and you can come to my house to see it for yourself.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:11 am
Res Ipsa wrote:
Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:39 am
I looked for this issue of the Messenger (which was indeed the Salt Lake City Messenger) but couldn't find what Shades described. Jerald wrote a paper called "The Money Digging Letters" in which he set out his analysis. Although several issues of the Messenger refer to that paper, I couldn't find it on the site. I could not tell whether Sandra had stated a position in that paper.
I had to order the back issue in hardcopy. It does indeed exist.
Was it some kind of special issue? The regular newsletters are consecutively numbered, and there is no missing number between the first mention of the Salamander letter and the announcement of Hoffman's confession. I'd like to read what you described, so I'm trying to find it as best I can.

When you get a chance, would you mind taking a look at it and describe how it's labeled at the top? Or better yet, taking a pic of the first page and posting or e-mailing it to me?
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Certainty. I’ll do so when I get home later tonight.
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Certainty. I’ll do so when I get home later tonight.
Thanks, boss. Much appreciated.
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It doesn’t exist. All of the issues of Messenger are posted online.
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Starting on page 14, the Tanners give each of their own differing opinions on the Salamander Letter. Very interesting;

http://www.utlm.org/newsletters/pdfnews ... senger.pdf
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Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:52 am
Starting on page 14, the Tanners give each of their own differing opinions on the Salamander Letter. Very interesting;

http://www.utlm.org/newsletters/pdfnews ... senger.pdf
Not really. I’ll bet the physical copy is much better.
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