Rules of Patheos: Midgley appears to violate TOS 10x

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Re: Rules of Patheos: Midgley appears to violate TOS 10x

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I think it's a sink or swim mentality, perhaps a little shadenfreude? No one of substance jumped in when Jenkins was slowly steam rolling them. Maybe, that's how they roll?
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Midgley is seriously touchy about this Maori thing. He has really ratcheted up his stalking to a new level.
Louis Midgley Dr. VelhoBurrinho an hour ago

Twenty hours ago Dr. VelhoBurrinho responded to an account I provided of a meeting that several of us had with Elder Marlin Jensen that took place Church Archive in Salt Lake City,. This meeting took place before it had been opened to the public. The meeting was focused on Dr. Robert Joseph, a very distinguished Maori Latter-day Saint scholar.

Dr. VelhoBurrinho does not seem to get the point of this true story. So, after thought and prayer, I will again try to help Dr. VelhoBurrinho see in several ways that he has been flatly wrong in what he has posted what I have written about the Maori Latter-day historical narrative, and hence also me.

I am more than a little annoyed that Dr. VelhoBurrinho keeps doubling down on the foolish and inaccurate things he has previously posted about me and what I have published on Maori Latter-day Saints.

Twenty hours ago he posted the following:
[Note: I number VB's paragraphs, and identify my own remarks by LM--that is Louis Midgley.]

1. "Yes I will admit," Dr. VelhoBurrinho acknowledged, " that I did challenge you by calling you out for cultural appropriation, in your approach your 'defense' articles."

LM: Please notice this sentence is garbled. What VB seems to mean "cultural appropriation" is that Latter-day Saint "white men" (always ?) invent what they want to believe about indigenous peoples. They also force indigenous peoples believe what they have invented. This seems to be what he had mind when he wrote the following: "in your approach [in] your 'defense' articles." He wrongly believes, because he is clearly a racial bigot, that I have invented a Maori world in what he calls my "defense articles." And I am seeking to force my opinions of the Maori Latter-day Saints. He wrongly believes that this is also what Latter-day Saint "white men" do. This is both wrong; it is also a clear indication of racial bigotry.

2. Dr. VelhoBurrinho: "Somehow you claim that by me questioning you that I am hostile to the Maori. Which is not the truth. You can re read the posts."

LM: I have never once said that you are hostile to Maori.

3. Dr. VelhoBurrinho: "You took it from there, into a very ugly narrative over and over. I have been very measured on what I have said back. You have not."

LM: I have printed every comment that Dr. VelhoBurrinho has posted on this and related issues. I did this because he has blocked access to what he has posted on sic et non. This self-assessment of his performance is not supported by what he has posted.

4. Dr. VelhoBurrinho: "From this point you on you can disagree challenge or mock anything I say here. And will I reserve the right to respectfully challenge you back, but I will keep it civil. As a educated man I expect the same from you."

LM: I am pleased that Dr. VelhoBurrinho will henceforth strive for civility. I urge him to also strive for both accuracy and coherence.

5. Dr. VelhoBurrinho "You stalking me outside of this board. Is unacceptable in any manner. At minimum it is a violation of the terms of service for this board. And you seriously run the risk of getting this blog/forum shut down."

LM: How exactly could I possibly "stalk" Dr. VelhoBurrinho "outside of this board"? [Please note that sic et non is Daniel C. Peterson's blog, and not a board.] I know that Dr. VelhoBurrinho posts on Jason's MD board only because VB quoted on sic et non some garbled language about his own objections to efforts to defend the faith of the Saints that he posted there. I then twisted his tail about what he quoted himself as having posted on that board. Even an rational person is not likely to see that as "stalking."

Without being at all familiar with the huge literature defending the faith of Latter-day Saints, and obviously relying on gossip, Dr. VelhoBurrinho lectured those on Jason's board about he thinks that defending the faith is "counterproductive." To me this is like someone who has never had their teeth cleaned insisting that doing this is useless.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Louis Midgley Dr. Shades 31 minutes ago

I was not assuming the worst. That is your gig. I was merely pointing out that by insisting that you don't stink up the pace [sic] on sic et non, they [sic] you put it, entails that you fowl [sic] your on nest on your own thing, does it not?

I’m starting to think Mr. Peterson is purposely letting the Midge embarrass himself. Did they ever have a falling out that would cause Mr. Peterson to hold a grudge?

- Doc

Never let the Midge tell you he doesn’t check this board constantly. He went back and fixed the errors noted above, but not before Dr. Shades made the comment the former’s post was illegible. Note in the following comment, that even for the smallest of things a Mopologist will dissemble and lie about it:

Louis “I don’t know the difference between fowl and foul” Midglet > Dr. Shades 15 hours ago

[Dr. Shades’ in real life information removed] : A typographical error does not make something illegible or make it illegible wording.

I had no idea that ‘no slam dunks’ means falling on your goddamn sword for every little thing. Midgley is pathetic.

- Doc
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Louis Midgley 12 minutes ago

The one posting as Moksha, without intending to do so, actually does us a bit favor by demonstrating that those who intentionally turn against the gospel of Jesus Christ thereby become "carnal, selfish and devilish."

See Mosiah 3. Hugh Nibley also liked to point out that they also often become stupid. This illustrates what is known as Novak's Rule.

I should also point out, for those who never knew or who have forgotten, Mosiah is a book found in the Book of Mormon.

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Can someone who is following the blog help me out here? Who is using Shade's in real life? Is this something that Shades disclosed himself on the blog or what exactly happened there?

Feel free to PM me the answer if someone feels it's more appropriate.
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It looks like SeN is now trying to blame our own Dr. Shades for the angry, bullying and mean tone of his blog. Is SeN really that blind?

I'm going to give you another day or so, Shades. If, by then, you haven't improved your game, I'll politely show you the door. Since the time, two or three months ago, that it became fashionable among certain of the folks from your board to come over here, discourse in the comments section of my blog has palpably changed for the worse. For the record, I'm pretty much fed up with it.

"O Christlike one" People and personalities are the favored topics on your message board. I would very much prefer my blog and its comments section to be about ideas. I invite you and the several other visitors from your message board to stop attempting to bring its ethos to my blog. Since your mass arrival here, the quality of discourse in the comments on my blog has been palpably affected for the worse. I don't appreciate that.

Shades, you have a message board all your own. I invite you to post there, and to stop trying to provoke others on my blog.Thanks in advance!

You should do stand-up. In the meanwhile, you're cluttering up the comments section of my blog but offering nothing of substance. It's a less virulently hostile version of what the folks from your state-of-nature board have been bringing over here for weeks. I'm not very inclined to patience with it any more.

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He should white list and clean it up. Not that hard. Not extreme. Just good board management.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:It looks like SeN is now trying to blame our own Dr. Shades for the angry, bullying and mean tone of his blog. Is SeN really that blind?

I'm going to give you another day or so, Shades. If, by then, you haven't improved your game, I'll politely show you the door.

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Does LM have to improve his game?
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Lemmie wrote:Louis Midgley 12 minutes ago

The one posting as Moksha, without intending to do so, actually does us a bit favor by demonstrating that those who intentionally turn against the gospel of Jesus Christ thereby become "carnal, selfish and devilish."

See Mosiah 3. Hugh Nibley also liked to point out that they also often become stupid. This illustrates what is known as Novak's Rule.

I should also point out, for those who never knew or who have forgotten, Mosiah is a book found in the Book of Mormon.

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Of course he drops David Novak’s name because... wait for it... Tillich. My god the Midglet has been beating this dead horse for 50 years. What a crackpot hack.

- Doc
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Jersey Girl wrote:Can someone who is following the blog help me out here? Who is using Shade's in real life? Is this something that Shades disclosed himself on the blog or what exactly happened there?

Feel free to PM me the answer if someone feels it's more appropriate.

The Midglet just thinks he’s intimidating someone when using their real name instead of their username. It’s part of his creepy stalking/harassing behavior. I have no idea if Dr. Shades connected the two identities in either forum.

- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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