Arguments against the LDS Church
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_Who Knows
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[mr. apologist speaking] I can connect 90% of your list to Joseph Smith's character and/or church secrecy. Try again. [/mr. apologist speaking]
WK: "Joseph Smith asserted that the Book of Mormon peoples were the original inhabitants of the americas"
Will Schryver: "No, he didn’t." 3/19/08
Still waiting for Will to back this up...
Will Schryver: "No, he didn’t." 3/19/08
Still waiting for Will to back this up...
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_Bond...James Bond
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Who Knows wrote:[mr. apologist speaking] I can connect 90% of your list to Joseph Smith's character and/or church secrecy. Try again. [/mr. apologist speaking]
[mrs. apologist] Daniel get off that darn computer and come to dinner!!! [/mrs. apologist]
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
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_Some Schmo
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For me (as a teenager), it was three main things:
- I could never buy the Joseph Smith story of him going into the forest and seeing god; I mean, what grown up would actually believe that?
- There were too many really good people in religions all over the world who'd never heard of (and never would) Mormonism
- The idea that we'd be judged on an arbitrary set of rules never personally revealed to us, and would suffer the judgment of our brief earthly experience for eternity
Since then, it's become a simple matter of being too grounded in rational thought to even entertain the idea of a god at all. I hate religion's push for anti-intellectualism and the way it allows for an escape of personal responsibility. I'm not interested in living my life based on a fantasy or anything even remotely supernatural. All the details about the Mormon religion are just window dressing and of the flavor of that particular religion, but they're all basically worthless.
- I could never buy the Joseph Smith story of him going into the forest and seeing god; I mean, what grown up would actually believe that?
- There were too many really good people in religions all over the world who'd never heard of (and never would) Mormonism
- The idea that we'd be judged on an arbitrary set of rules never personally revealed to us, and would suffer the judgment of our brief earthly experience for eternity
Since then, it's become a simple matter of being too grounded in rational thought to even entertain the idea of a god at all. I hate religion's push for anti-intellectualism and the way it allows for an escape of personal responsibility. I'm not interested in living my life based on a fantasy or anything even remotely supernatural. All the details about the Mormon religion are just window dressing and of the flavor of that particular religion, but they're all basically worthless.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.