Brethren (and sistren), adieu

[_Ray A]

For heaven's sake, Ray, give it a rest. We know that you find us all morally destitute because we don't rush to DCP's defense every time he's attacked. We know that you believe all exmormons have the moral responsibility to police RfM.* We know that you believe we are encouraging future acts of violence against Mormons by choosing to ignore certain infantile behavior. We know this. We know this. You have told us over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. To this day, I think your apparent belief that certain infantile RfM posters are going to encourage waves of violence against LDS is irrational. So your repeating it over and over and over and over and over and over isn't convincing me, and I doubt it's convincing anyone, but it is making you look obsessed yourself.

You accuse others of obsessive behavior, yet you are one of the most obsessive posters I've ever met. You criticize others for their rude behavior when you indulge in it so frequently, you mocked Don for changing his mind about posting on FAIR, when you do the same thing yourself. This is a definite pattern.

Now you're using runtu to beat your same old drum which is really despicable, considering how hard he has always worked to be fair, calm, and reasonable, and considering what a hard time he's been through. You have no compassion to those on the "wrong" side, do you?

Now go ahead and launch into one of your vulgar attacks of me, but please, start a different thread to do so. At least have the dignity to leave this one alone, out of respect to runtu. And if you can't find any reason to respect him, then you really have a problem, and it likely has nothing to do with internet boards and more to do with your own judgment and personality.


*all posters here most certainly do not engage in gratuitous insulting of DCP. If you can prove otherwise with your index, do so, but start a new thread.

Perhaps those who "need to give it a rest" are OBSESSIVE exmos who come on the Net for only one reason: To bash Mormonism. No, I will not "give it a rest" until they do. You are stuck with me, and I will be a thorn in your collective backsides for a long time to come.

[_Dr. Shades]

No, I will not "give it a rest" until they do. You are stuck with me, and I will be a thorn in your collective backsides for a long time to come.

Good! I'd rather have you posting here than at MAD.

[_beastie]

Perhaps those who "need to give it a rest" are OBSESSIVE exmos who come on the Net for only one reason: To bash Mormonism. No, I will not "give it a rest" until they do. You are stuck with me, and I will be a thorn in your collective backsides for a long time to come.

Well, becoming what you hate is always a good maneuver to punish those who demonstrate the behavior you hate, and now mimic.

edit on: Now I remember why this statement of Ray's sounded vaguely familiar. It's the exact same reason that some of exmormons give about why they continue to attack the church: as long as the church keeps sending out its thousands of missionaries to try to convert people to a lie, they will continue to attack and expose the church.

[_Ray A]

edit on: Now I remember why this statement of Ray's sounded vaguely familiar. It's the exact same reason that some of exmormons give about why they continue to attack the church: as long as the church keeps sending out its thousands of missionaries to try to convert people to a lie, they will continue to attack and expose the church.

Good one, beastie. At least I know where you really stand.

[_beastie]

beastie wrote:
edit on: Now I remember why this statement of Ray's sounded vaguely familiar. It's the exact same reason that some of exmormons give about why they continue to attack the church: as long as the church keeps sending out its thousands of missionaries to try to convert people to a lie, they will continue to attack and expose the church.



Good one, beastie. At least I know where you really stand.

Is there some sort of rule book for apologia that requires deliberate distortions of statements? This was practically Juliannesque.

No, Ray, I've never made that statement, but I've seen other exmormons make the statement to explain their persistence in trying to "expose" the LDS church.

And now you declare that as long "they" continue to do so, you will continue to attack us. Apparently you have quite a bit in common with those you detest.

Now go ahead and pull another Juliann and distort what I said so you don't have to admit this to yourself, even when it's so painfully obvious.

[_Ray A]

Is there some sort of rule book for apologia that requires deliberate distortions of statements? This was practically Juliannesque.

No, Ray, I've never made that statement, but I've seen other exmormons make the statement to explain their persistence in trying to "expose" the LDS church.

And now you declare that as long "they" continue to do so, you will continue to attack us. Apparently you have quite a bit in common with those you detest.

Now go ahead and pull another Juliann and distort what I said so you don't have to admit this to yourself, even when it's so painfully obvious.

I think anyone could have read it the way I did. However, if this reply is meant to dissociate with the "lie" bit, then the clarification was appropriate. Incidentally, you are not the only one to be misread, Scratch is the Master of Misreading.

[_Who Knows]

edit on: Now I remember why this statement of Ray's sounded vaguely familiar. It's the exact same reason that some of exmormons give about why they continue to attack the church: as long as the church keeps sending out its thousands of missionaries to try to convert people to a lie, they will continue to attack and expose the church.

Good one, beastie. At least I know where you really stand.

Do you prefer 'delusion'?

[_Ray A]

Do you prefer 'delusion'?

I know that's what you believe, but no, in your case LIE is fine.

[_beastie]

Ray,

You must be kidding.

Here's what I said:

edit on: Now I remember why this statement of Ray's sounded vaguely familiar. It's the exact same reason that some (of - sic- typo) exmormons give about why they continue to attack the church: as long as the church keeps sending out its thousands of missionaries to try to convert people to a lie, they will continue to attack and expose the church.

It's very clear. SOME exmormons say they will continue to attack the church as long as the church keeps sending out missionaries to convert people to a lie. This is a fact. I have read this many times on RfM.

Now this is how you interpreted it:

beastie says she will continue to attack the church as long as it keeps sending out missionaries to convert people to a lie.

And you are really going to defend your obvious misreading, and place the blame on ME?

No, I've never said I was going to continue to attack the church as long as it sends out missionaries to convert people to a lie.

I would never say it because I don't attack the church, I criticize certain truth claims of the LDS church, AND I don't care if it tries to convert people.

I have stated many times that what I care about is this: people who deliberately seek out additional information to try and evaluate LDS claims have a right to information that is clear and not misleading.

How about responding to what you tried to divert attention from - ie, how similar you are, in several ways, to the very people you find detestable.

[_Ray A]

How about responding to what you tried to divert attention from - ie, how similar you are, in several ways, to the very people you find detestable.

That's precisely it. I'm their mirror. Do you get it now?

Remember, I'm the "formerly calm poster". Think about what sent me into overdrive.