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Jersey Girl wrote:
Trevor wrote:
Gadianton wrote:Trever, I demand that you take down that picture of me this instant. I didn't want to do what I had to do that day anyway, and that someone caught me on camera I consider scandalous.


My long lost twin!!! We're reunited at last! Good looks, brains. Money. Fame. We have it all.


**progresses to double swooning**


Make that triple swooning. ;)
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truth dancer wrote:You are welcome Mike!

I think the your voice is much needed for members who are struggling with belief and want to stay in the church. I do believe it will become a popular book for members. :-)

I remember a few years ago you mentioned you were working on this book and I am glad to hear it made it through the VERY difficult process of publication! Kudos!

While obviously, (smile) I do not believe the church is the one and only true church on the Earth, I do think there are members who wish/need to stay in the church and are finding it increasingly difficult so hopefully this population will find your book and resolve their challenges!

One question, is the book general enough for other faiths to use or is it specific to faith in the LDS church? I understand you are covering many questions concerning the LDS church and it is directed to LDS believers but does it also address faith generally?

Best of luck,

~dancer~


Thanks for the kind words of encouragement.

You ask a tough question and I'm not sure if I have a good answer. In some ways the first 1/2 of the book is general enough for other faiths. I talk (as I mentioned previously) about cog. dis. & the feelings one goes through when then discover evidence that conflicts with belief. I talk about the fact that the scriptures (all scriptures) were written from perspectives that are often foreign to us and that we impose our views into what we read. I talk about the fallibility of both scripture and mankind (including prophets of modern & olden times). Many Mormons and protestants are equally closed-minded about some of their beliefs and cling to tradition without questioning "why"? I don't know if a non-Mormon would get a lot out of it, but I think there are probably nuggets that a non-Mormon believer in the supernatural would find helpful.

Mike
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Infymus wrote: f*****g mods, always protecting the Mormons on this site.



Oh, grow up. Your persecution complex is worse than ANY of the TBM's here.

Read the damned board for a change, quit doing drive-by's, and maybe you would actually have an idea what goes on here. Half the time, you don't even know who is a member of the Church, and who isn't. You automatically assume that everyone who differs from your precious viewpoint must be a devout TBM out to get you personally.

You're the one talking out of your ass.

(Note to Shades.....I'm speaking as a man, not a Mod.)
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liz3564 wrote:
Infymus wrote: f*****g mods, always protecting the Mormons on this site.



Oh, grow up. Your persecution complex is worse than ANY of the TBM's here.

Read the f*****g board for a change, quit doing drive-by's, and maybe you would actually have an idea what goes on here. Half the time, you don't even know who is a member of the Church, and who isn't. You automatically assume that everyone who differs from your precious viewpoint must be a devout TBM out to get you personally.

You're the one talking out of your ass.

(Note to Shades.....I'm speaking as a man, not a Mod.)


Regarding this speaking as a man business. Would it be okay if I spoke as a man from Jersey?
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dartagnan wrote:
I don't think Mormonism is all that unique in this way. I think most religions are like that. Think of the JWs. JWism is insinuated into every nook and cranny in a person's life, to the point where it's very difficult for someone to leave it -

True, but I think Mormonism gets set apart from most other Christian based religions mainly because there is such a thing as Mormon society. If JW society exists, it does so as tiny subsets. In Mormonism you got Utah. If you leave the Church in Utah you're pretty much screwed everywhere you try to turn.
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Once again, I'm not sure I'd agree, Kevin. I've lived outside of Utah about 1/2 my life & now I live in Utah. I know many people here that have left the Church-- but it never seems to be an issue. Also, I work with a man who is Protestant and currently attends a local Baptist congregation. I know many of the people in his congregation (either through my gym, my work, etc.) In many ways I find them more culturally tight-nit than I see of my own ward members. There are definately differences in Mormon culture but in my honest opinion I've not see the degree of scrutiny, demand for obience, etc., that you have seen or experienced.

Mike
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Jersey Girl wrote:Regarding this speaking as a man business. Would it be okay if I spoke as a man from Jersey?



Of course! ;)

(Actually, you are a Goddess, but that's beside the point!)
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liz3564 wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:Regarding this speaking as a man business. Would it be okay if I spoke as a man from Jersey?



Of course! ;)

(Actually, you are a Goddess, but that's beside the point!)


Thank you! I'll be back as soon as I choose a location in Jersey to speak from. I'm thinkin' Newark...
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Post by _cksalmon »

Trevor wrote:
cksalmon wrote:Crap!

It looks like they uploaded the wrong cover.


Well done, old chap. Well done.


No, you outdid me with your 3D extrusion. Showoff. Illustrator or just Photoshop?

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cksalmon wrote:No, you outdid me with your 3D extrusion. Showoff. Illustrator or just Photoshop?

Chris


Hehehe
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Angus McAwesome wrote:Oh, wow... That cover is just dying for a random /b/tard to make a Pedobear/Chris Hansen meme out of it.


Oh great, a 4chan reject toting a woody for 40k. GO BACK TO THE BASEMENT foul being!!!!

Welcome to the cool kids lunch table.

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Some insects called the human race
Lost in time
And lost in space...and meaning
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