LDS Conservatives Are Idolatrous?

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Re: LDS Conservatives Are Idolatrous?

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bcspace wrote:I don't know about significant, but many of them do get into trouble now and then. Why do we not excommunicate the lot of them? Wheat with the tares is the current, unstated in any manual you have access to, policy.

With other GA's? Yes.


Maybe you should talk to Elder Jensen. Would be interesting to hear his perspective.
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Maybe you should talk to Elder Jensen. Would be interesting to hear his perspective.


I would enjoy it. I wonder what he would say about being openly vocal about supporting gay marriage?
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bcspace wrote:I would enjoy it.


What would you do if you found out he actually did support much of the party's platform and goals?
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What would you do if you found out he actually did support much of the party's platform and goals?


The Democrats? I would warn him about apostasy.
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Kevin Graham wrote:And thank God for the Democratic party as a rational alternative to the blind religious zealots who would turn this country into a theocracy if they had the power in numbers.


Here comes the MoveOn.org Chatty Kathy doll. Pull the string again...

It is telling that droopy would let his charade drop for a second and tell us exactly what his real beef is with the "leftists." Not surprisingly, it has nothing to do with one political persuasion being a better fit for the people of this nation. Instead, it is all grounded in his religious dogma.


Its amazing how many gophers Scratch has managed to actually create here. Quite an achievement in the field of yellow journalism, if such can be considered an achievement.
He hates the idea of women having the right to choose,


I disagree strongly with the use of abortion as a form of birth control, yes.
homosexuals having the right to marriage,


A contradiction in terms. Talk sense Kevin.

the notion of civil rights,


I have no idea what you're talking about here. None.
the notion of equality,


Define the term and we'll see.
workers having rights to negotiate their own wages, etc.


If workers want to form a union and negotiate for wages and benefits, that's fine with me, with several major provisos, two of which are that union membership is completely voluntary and there is no retaliation or intimidation of those who do not wish to join, and secondly, that if the market dictates that the wages and benefits are uneconomic in nature and unsustainable, that the union give way to market forces and not drive their members into unemployment by shrinking or destroying the company they work for.

A third proviso would most definitely be that public sector unionism be outlawed. Unionism should only be acceptable, in a free, rule of law based society, in a private sector context.
In a nutshell, he wants less liberty.


How knavish can you possibly be?

He wants less freedom and fewer rights.


Adding "rights" do not necessarily add or improve the condition of human freedom (whatever that may mean). In any event, more knavery from the human vacuum tube.


Why? Because he believes there is a man in the sky who hates all these things. The same man who requires him to put on magic underwear every night as insurance for the soul.


Has Kevin become possessed by the spirit of Polygamy Porter?
Yeah, praise God for the non-religious leftist who tend to place reason and rationality before religious fanaticism, all of which is usually based on some fraud like Joseph Smith.


The irony of this is positively jaw dropping (I'm going to send Graham my dentist bill this coming Monday).
But contrary to what Droopy needs to believe, the left are not Godless.


A truly vast quantity of them are, yes, to one degree or another, and in one manner or another.

Secularists and not atheists by definition,


But they are...secularists.

Strange. I went into recovery for alcoholism, and I've now come to know someone who needs recovery from...himself.

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bcspace wrote:The Democrats? I would warn him about apostasy.


Would you alert the church leadership that he espoused apostate ideals?
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Kevin Graham wrote:Who in their right mind really believes that if the nation were 100% LDS at some point, that the government would not be changed into a theocratic system? Just look at how BY and the Church ran Utah as a theocracy! Mormons pretend to worship the Constitution only because it makes them feel more mainstream than they really are. They talk the talk about liberty, but in reality they want fewer liberties when placing their religious dogma first. And make no mistake about it, for them religious dogma always comes first. It is never about what is best for the nation. It is always what is best for their Church. They've found an unprecedented level of acceptance by clinging to the Right Wing political bandwagon. From Glenn Beck to Mitt Romney, they think they found their niche in the mainstream. But don't for a second think they actually believe their own BS when they spout out the Right Wing talking points about liberties and the prosperity of the nation. WHat matters to them is the prosperity of their precious religion, and nothing more.



One long, exhausting, rambling, mindless ad hominem tirade lacking even a particle of intellectual substance.

You know, Graham's posts aren't really posts anymore, they're just statistics.
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Kevin Graham wrote:The funniest thing about this thread is how ignorant both droopy and bcspace really are to the number of LDS leaders who are either progressives, or indifferent to any of the current political persuasions.


I know their are, and always have been, LDS leaders who are Democrats. Please enlighten me as to which LDS leaders are progressives.
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Would you alert the church leadership that he espoused apostate ideals?


Do you think he's some sort of socialist? Maybe he's not really a Democrat anymore.
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I know their are, and always have been, LDS leaders who are Democrats. Please enlighten me as to which LDS leaders are progressives.


Certainly not Marlin K Jensen. All he did was lament the stratification of the parties, as do I, and the libs clutch it like some long lost raggedy ann doll.
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