Atheism is not a religion, right?

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jskains wrote:
Go back and watch that video. Richard Dawkins and his fellow people not only mocked, insulted, and rediculed the theists, but made a call for all the attendees to do the same. They follow that with Billboards being posted in religious communities to mock their beliefs, demanding they know the religion is a myth/scam, and attacking people's ideas and beliefs.

Atheism is not a positive belief system. It is an ugly cult trying to start a war, and I think of these people continue the direction they are going, they very well WILL get a civil war.

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Now you are just twisting what atheists believe based on a non-doctrinal youtube video. An atheist is only an atheist when acting as such. People are free to have opinions, but unless it is official atheist doctrine, you can't hold any atheist to those beliefs.
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Drifting wrote:
jskains wrote:Really? That's your best response? Disagreeing with redefinition of marriage is the same as demanding fellow Atheists directly mock, attack, and generally fight with theists?

You are stretching your argument far too thin. Try again.

JMS


Who defined marriage in the first place?
Certainly wasn't God.

Marriage (also called matrimony or wedlock) is a social union or legal contract between people that creates kinship. The definition of marriage varies according to different cultures, but is usually an institution in which interpersonal relationships, usually intimate and sexual, are acknowledged. Such a union is often formalized via a wedding ceremony. Many cultures limit marriage to two persons of the opposite sex, but some allow forms of polygamous marriage, and some recognize same-sex marriage. In some conservative cultures, marriage is recommended or compulsory before pursuing any sexual activity.


So, you want to redefine a legal and social construct that's got cock all to do with religion? You to persecute gay people and try to prevent them from achieving the same legal and social rights that you enjoy.
Now who's looking more like the Nazi party?

And you have a leading member of the Luftwaffe at the controls!

In Mormonism Gay is the new Black.


LOL, your attempts are so pathetic.

Marriage has always been defined as a union of a man and a woman. Homosexuals LIED when they pushed for Civil Unions claiming over and over they would never touch marriage. When they went after marriage, demanding the government definition be redefined, people rightfully who ALSO pay taxes got involved.

Perhaps you are anti-democracy? Perhaps you hate the design of the United States? Would it be better that everyone who wants something automatically gets it without discussion or vote?

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jskains wrote:Marriage has always been defined as a union of a man and a woman. JMS

...except for that nasty business known as polygamy.
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Nomomo wrote:
Bond James Bond wrote:Other couplets:

If atheism is a "religion",...
then Not Collecting Stamps is a "hobby".

If atheism is a "religion", ...
then Not Playing Football is a "sport".

If atheism is a "religion", ...
then 'OFF' is a "TV channel".

If atheism is a "religion", ...
then "Abstinence" is a "sex position".

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Indeed borrowed from shamelessly :D
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Corpsegrinder wrote:
jskains wrote:Marriage has always been defined as a union of a man and a woman. JMS

...except for that nasty business known as polygamy.


Yes nasty. Like when modern men and woman have lots of sex with lots of partners, often without ANY commitment whatsoever, with men proudly spreading their seed without taking responsibility for any of it.

That's much better than polygamy! (Still between men and women, but whatever).
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jskains wrote:Isn't that cute? You completely ignore the FACT it is the Atheists trying to start a fight with the theists.


Not quite.

http://LDS.org/ensign/2010/08/finding-o ... ry=atheist

Atheists and agnostics make nonbelief their religion and today organize in unprecedented ways to attack faith and belief. They are now organized, and they pursue political power. You will be hearing much about them and from them. Much of their attack is indirect in mocking the faithful, in mocking religion.


Starting off here - it's official LDS doctrine that atheism and agnosticism are religions. So why do they insist on persecuting us for our "religious" nonbeliefs? :(

http://LDS.org/ensign/1973/09/what-ever ... ry=atheist

The atheist proclaims his own dishonesty in accepting pay to teach psychology, sociology, history, or English, while he is indeed preaching his atheistic religious philosophy to his students. If the atheist wants to teach his doctrine at a public university, let him purchase property off campus and build himself a building and offer classes. Let him label them for what they are.


http://LDS.org/friend/1981/04/easter-di ... ry=atheist

“Dad,” LeRoy asked one day, “what’s an atheist? Martin Pratt says he’s one.”

“I doubt that a real atheist even exists, son,” his dad replied.

“But what is an atheist?” LeRoy persisted.

“An atheist is a person who denies the existence of God.”

“Mr. Pratt says our universe is like a big automatic clock that was wound up long, long ago and that we don’t need a Heavenly Father to look after it.”

“Actually, LeRoy, nothing could be further from the truth. Perhaps one day Martin will change his mind. At least we can hope.”


http://LDS.org/general-conference/1985/ ... ry=atheist

A new senior companion faced a sophisticated woman lawyer who was polite but very intellectual. When the missionary asked her who the boy prophet saw in the column of light, she answered, “I am an atheist.” The elder didn’t really understand the implication, so he repeated the question. She answered again, “I am an atheist. You want me to say that Joseph Smith saw the Father and the Son, but I do not believe in God.”

The elder had never encountered an atheist before, and his first impulse was to give up and leave, but the Spirit said, “No, she will listen. Just answer the questions for her.” So the elder proceeded and said, “You are right. He saw the Father and the Son.” He continued with the presentation, but instead of asking questions directly, he asked them indirectly and answered them himself for her.

At the end of the presentation he taught her how we pray, and then courageously asked her to kneel with them and to be the voice. She did kneel and did pray to her Heavenly Father. Never again did she say that she was an atheist. She and her family subsequently were baptized.


http://LDS.org/ensign/1971/12/the-only- ... ry=atheist

Now I understand, of course, why one would feel that way. Nevertheless, I would say to him: “Hold on, think for a moment. Surely you can’t believe that in the great confusing variety of religious beliefs, not one of them is true, is right.”

Such a proposition generates atheism. When I think of an atheist, I believe with Sister Carol Lynn Pearson in what she wrote in her verse dedicated to the atheist:
“God must have a huge sense of humor
So righteously to resist
The temptation of turning the tables
On your pretending he does not exist.” 1


http://LDS.org/ensign/1976/12/selected- ... ry=atheist

5. We’ll see individuals who will have influence on society at critical junctures. … There’ll be Colonel Kanes raised up to assist us and much of the yield will come from those who find the emptiness of Marxism and secularism. It will include a stake president I met last month who, five years ago, was an atheist and a Marxist.


http://LDS.org/broadcasts/article/ces-d ... ry=atheist

This is a harder question for those who affirm the existence of God and absolute truth than for those who believe in moral relativism. The weaker one’s belief in God and the fewer one’s moral absolutes, the fewer the occasions when the ideas or practices of others will confront one with the challenge to be tolerant. For example, an atheist has no need to decide what kinds and occasions of profanity or blasphemy can be tolerated and what kinds should be confronted. Persons who don’t believe in God or in absolute truth in moral matters can see themselves as the most tolerant of persons. For them, almost anything goes. “You do your thing, and I’ll do my thing” is the popular description. This belief system can tolerate almost any behavior and almost any persons. Unfortunately, some who believe in moral relativism seem to have difficulty tolerating those who insist that there is a God who should be respected and certain moral absolutes that should be observed.


http://LDS.org/ensign/1988/11/the-quali ... ry=atheist

Now, in view of the almost universal concern over the quality of mortal life, and since some people seem to be happier than others, we might ask the question about eternal life: “How can I be sure to have a happy experience there?” And remember, eternity is a long, long time. Well, you can listen to those who know about it. Atheists don’t know about it. Careless, worldly, materialistic people don’t know about it or, at best, they are unconcerned.



http://LDS.org/new-era/1972/04/on-cheat ... ry=atheist

And there are those who try to free themselves from moral obligations by claiming that they are atheists. The current generation has no monopoly on this self-deception. Thousands of years ago the psalmist observed that “God looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, that did seek God.” He then wrote that they had “altogether become filthy,” that there was “none that doeth good, no, not one.” And his profound chastisement at that time was this: “The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.” (See Ps. 53:1–3.)

“The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.” The children of Israel poured themselves a molten calf; and though it was gold, it could neither hear, nor smell, nor see, nor think, nor feel. They had divested themselves of their jewelry and had received nothing in return. How foolish they were! How blind!
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Still waiting for instructions given to LDS members to actively go out and mock Atheists or tell them how dumb they are.

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jskains wrote:
Yes nasty. Like when modern men and woman have lots of sex with lots of partners, often without ANY commitment whatsoever, with men proudly spreading their seed without taking responsibility for any of it.

That's much better than polygamy! (Still between men and women, but whatever).


Yes, just like Joseph Smith. Nasty.
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B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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jskains wrote:Still waiting for instructions given to LDS members to actively go out and mock Atheists or tell them how dumb they are.

JMS


See the post above yours.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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