The Name of the TRUE Church

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Re: The Name of the TRUE Church

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gdemetz wrote:Mittens, I am not talking about symbolism here. It is all through the scriptures concerning the 1000 year period when the saints will reign with Christ after His second coming!


It's fascinating to watch you and Mittens go through this kabuki dance. You're both so confident in your opinions and yet neither of you really know what you're talking about.

Please continue.
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Quas, this is what the Bible "is talking about"! Did you read it all yet?
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gdemetz wrote:Mittens, I am not talking about symbolism here. It is all through the scriptures concerning the 1000 year period when the saints will reign with Christ after His second coming!



You are mislead the 1000 years is the Gospel age, When Jesus returns next it will be the final judgement and eternal life for Christians and 2nd death for unbelievers.
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Mittens you really need to study the Bible more. "Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be PRIESTS of God AND Christ, and shall reign with Him a THOUSAND YEARS." Revelation 20:6

Mittens, this is the thousand year period which is referred to by Christians as the millennium. There is no Biblical reference to a "gospel age" of a thousand years!
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gdemetz wrote:Mittens you really need to study the Bible more. "Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be PRIESTS of God AND Christ, and shall reign with Him a THOUSAND YEARS." Revelation 20:6

Mittens, this is the thousand year period which is referred to by Christians as the millennium. There is no Biblical reference to a "gospel age" of a thousand years!


Daniel 2:44 refers to the Gospel age which Jesus built the foundation of durning the Roman Empire

44 And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever. 45 Inasmuch as you saw that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold—the great God has made known to the king what will come to pass after this. The dream is certain, and its interpretation is sure.”

Head of Gold is the Babylonian Empire
Breasts and arms of silver is the Medo-Persian Empire
Belly and thighs of brass is the Macedonian Empire
Legs of Iron is the Roman Empire
Feet of iron and clay is Rome broken into Ten Kingdoms

1. Alemanni - Germany.
2. Franks - France.
3. Burgundians - Switzerland.
4. Suevi - Portugal.
5. Vandals - Exterminated.
6. Visigoths - Spain.
7. Anglo-Saxons - England.
8. Ostrogoths - Exterminated.
9. Lombards - Italy.
10. Heruli - Exterminated.
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Mittens your post has no relative bearing on the issue. That was not a 1000 year period, and that is not what respectable theologians term "the millennium." In fact since that was not a 1000 year period, it is not a millennium at all. The Biblical quote I gave you clearly refers to "the millennium" in which the saints will reign with Christ on the terrestrial earth AFTER the second coming!
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gdemetz wrote:Mittens your post has no relative bearing on the issue. That was not a 1000 year period, and that is not what respectable theologians term "the millennium." In fact since that was not a 1000 year period, it is not a millennium at all. The Biblical quote I gave you clearly refers to "the millennium" in which the saints will reign with Christ on the terrestrial earth AFTER the second coming!



No where in the Bible does it say Jesus will reign for a thousand years on this earth. But it does teach when Jesus returns there will be a New Heaven and New Earth for Eternity
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gdemetz wrote:Mittens you really need to study the Bible more. "Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be PRIESTS of God AND Christ, and shall reign with Him a THOUSAND YEARS." Revelation 20:6

Mittens, this is the thousand year period which is referred to by Christians as the millennium. There is no Biblical reference to a "gospel age" of a thousand years!



Hmm...

http://www.LDS.org/manual/new-testament ... even+seals

This link will take you to an LDS.org page at the bottom of which is an explanation of the seven millenniums (1,000 year periods of the earth).

The first seal was open ended and commenced when Adam fell. We know from LDS teaching that this was 4,000 bc so we can identify the period relating to each of the seven millennium.

4,000 - 3,000 bc - first seal/millennium
3,000 - 2,000 bc - second seal/millennium
2,000 - 1,000 bc - third seal/millennium
1,000 - 0,000 bc - fourth seal/millennium
0,000 - 1,000 ad - fifth seal/millennium
1,000 - 2,000 ad - sixth seal/millennium
2,000 - 3,000 ad - seventh and final seal/millennium

Hang on...

Events depicted in the opening of the sixth seal are more detailed. They pertain to the dispensation in preparation for the Savior’s Second Coming.


That would mean....Christ should be here and ruling by now...
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Drifting wrote:
gdemetz wrote:Mittens you really need to study the Bible more. "Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be PRIESTS of God AND Christ, and shall reign with Him a THOUSAND YEARS." Revelation 20:6

Mittens, this is the thousand year period which is referred to by Christians as the millennium. There is no Biblical reference to a "gospel age" of a thousand years!



Hmm...

http://www.LDS.org/manual/new-testament ... even+seals

This link will take you to an LDS.org page at the bottom of which is an explanation of the seven millenniums (1,000 year periods of the earth).

The first seal was open ended and commenced when Adam fell. We know from LDS teaching that this was 4,000 bc so we can identify the period relating to each of the seven millennium.

4,000 - 3,000 bc - first seal/millennium
3,000 - 2,000 bc - second seal/millennium
2,000 - 1,000 bc - third seal/millennium
1,000 - 0,000 bc - fourth seal/millennium
0,000 - 1,000 ad - fifth seal/millennium
1,000 - 2,000 ad - sixth seal/millennium
2,000 - 3,000 ad - seventh and final seal/millennium

Hang on...

Events depicted in the opening of the sixth seal are more detailed. They pertain to the dispensation in preparation for the Savior’s Second Coming.


That would mean....Christ should be here and ruling by now...

That's what JSJr prophesied too.

Instead of 'where's Waldo?', perhaps TSM should be asked and be telling us 'where's 2nd Jesus?'
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You are clearly wrong Mittens. I already gave you the reference from Revelation 20 which shows you are wrong. However, I will break it down more for you. or rather let Steve Wohlberg break it down for you verse by verse. See "The 1000 Millennium"!
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