No Trump defenders left ...?

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Re: No Trump defenders left ...?

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The list is a whole lot of nothing. It's for stupid/desperate people. Fortunately, some are coming around...

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Subgenius vs. Reality

employment numbers rose for January and February: 2017 was the worst year for job creation since 2010.

coal mines opened for 68,000 employees: Coal mining employment rose from 51,000 to just 53,000 after 24 months of Trump.

Bulk of cabinet members have already been approved, despite Democrat posturing: Most of them have resigned, been fired or indicted and/or imprisoned.

reinstated the Mexico City policy (against foreign abortion company funding:Which was only a win for the religiously retarded.

Keystone pipeline: dumped 300,000 gallons of oil on South Dakota farmland on Trump's watch

ended "catch/release" immigration policy: Trump's immigration policy has been a nightmare politically and legally, resulting in hundreds of children being torn from their parents and so far two have died in our custody on Trump's watch.

ended sanctuary city funding: He ended nothing because his action was deemed unconstitutional. No surprise.

ended the ridiculous transgender bathroom order (leaves it up to individual States): Not much of a win for anyone other than homophobes and isolated bigots from small towns like yours.

ordered agencies that for every 1 new regulation proposed 2 regulations must be eliminated: When you account for the fact that virtually all of them are exempt, the results are hilarious. "President Donald Trump’s groundbreaking executive order that requires agencies to eliminate two rules for every new rule they issue has yielded just three regulations that aren’t exempt, out of more than 200 rules issued so far."- Bloomberg

Nominated Supreme Court judge - Do you also give him a cookie for successfully going to the bathroom?

reduced debt by $100B - :lol: debt stands at $21.7 trillion and has skyrocketed since he has been pretending to be President.

has undermined ACA - much to the chagrin of 4 million Americans who no longer have health insurance because of him. But what about his promise to repeal and replace? Oooops.

budget proposal- Which exploded the deficit of course.

travel ban - another move that was deemed unconstitutional.

Philadelphia Fed Index highest since 1984 - It spiked at 35.1 his first month in office and has since plummeted to 9.4 where it currently stands.

small/med business confidence at 12 year high (Reuters) - it was at a 12 year high before Trump took office and it is currently at its lowest point since then.

stock market (Dow) has been consistently rising- :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Samsung is coming back to US with 500 jobs and $300m - something that that was planned long before Trump entered office.

Exxon moving jobs back - something that that was planned long before Trump entered office.

Fiat investing $1B - something that that was planned long before Trump entered office.

Hasbro bringing Play-Doh manuf back to US - something that that was planned long before Trump entered office.

Illegal immigration from Mexico down 40% in first month - it had been dropping significantly since the turn of the century.

disrupted that rather stagnant nature of "status quo" politics inside the beltway- Yes, by giving us the most corrupt administration in history. Dozens of investigations, indictments, guilty pleas, etc.
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Chap wrote:Over the last few weeks, as Trump has made it more and more clear what kind of president he is going to be, I have noticed a falling off of activity amongst those who celebrated his election so gleefully.

Could it be that the FBI saying (in effect) "Those tweets? He's just pulling those out of his sphincter. There's no evidential backup", plus the Russia links probe, plus the "who knew healthcare was so complicated" farce and so on and so forth has finally disheartened those who assured us that Clinton would be the end of civilisation as we know it, and generally much, much worse in every way? (I mean, those emails...)

Come on. Somebody out there say something good about him ...?

I mean, at least he .... what?


I think he's being true to his base. It breaks my heart when he panders to Never Trumpers in the republican party.
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ajax18 wrote:It breaks my heart when he panders to Never Trumpers in the republican party.


Please give us an example of Mr Trump doing that.
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Chap wrote:
ajax18 wrote:It breaks my heart when he panders to Never Trumpers in the republican party.


Please give us an example of Mr Trump doing that.


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Chap wrote:
ajax18 wrote:It breaks my heart when he panders to Never Trumpers in the republican party.


Please give us an example of Mr Trump doing that.


Ajax is so stupid that he doesn't even realize that Trump had struck a deal with the Democrats and then suddenly backed away after he heard Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh and the other fringe morons on the right attack him for the first time.
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Kevin Graham wrote:
Ajax is so stupid that he doesn't even realize that Trump had struck a deal with the Democrats and then suddenly backed away after he heard Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh and the other fringe morons on the right attack him for the first time.

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Ajax is so stupid that he doesn't even realize that Trump had struck a deal with the Democrats and then suddenly backed away after he heard Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh and the other fringe morons on the right attack him for the first time.



He listened to the base, did he not? He's done more than any president in 75 years to enforce the border. The reason we don't have a wall lies with Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell. And a as I said earlier, 1/3 the country would be more than happy to fund the wall out of pocket and volumtarily.
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ajax18 wrote:He listened to the base, did he not? He's done more than any president in 75 years to enforce the border. The reason we don't have a wall lies with Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell. And a as I said earlier, 1/3 the country would be more than happy to fund the wall out of pocket and volumtarily.

Does the alleged 1/3 of the country that would want to fund the wall count more than the 62% who appose the wall?

Most Americans continue to oppose U.S. border wall, doubt Mexico would pay for it.
As was the case throughout the presidential campaign, more Americans continue to oppose (62%) than favor (35%) building a wall along the entire U.S. border with Mexico. And while President Donald Trump has said the U.S. would make Mexico pay for the wall, the public is broadly skeptical: 70% think the U.S. would ultimately pay for the wall, compared with just 16% who think Mexico would pay for it.

Trump's determination to build that wall has little or nothing to do with increased security and safety for the American people, and almost entirely to do with appealing to his moronic, xenophobic and racially bigoted base, including you.
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In one of the early James Bond novels, Ian Fleming created a rakish Texas oil millionaire who had the windshield of his Cadillac convertible ground to his eyeglasses prescription, so he could drive without wearing his glasses.

I find something of that casually expensive grand selfish gesture in Trump's wall. Trump sees the border as the problem and the wall as the solution. We see the problem at our border and we assume the problem is our border. The border isn't the problem. The border is the site of the problem. The problem is illegal immigration. And the problem of illegal immigration is a gigantic human problem. The fact that it is never talked about as such is worrisome.

Ask yourself: What would motivate you to pick up your family and join a caravan to cross another country in order to get to ours? What would cause you to abandon the country of your birth, and move to a cold climate where you're an outsider, with a different culture and language? People come to our borders with stories of being threatened by gangs. How do we know that the stories these people bring to our borders are true?

I would argue that at least some prima facie evidence exists in the very journey they took to get here. Again: what would cause you to abandon your home and march hundreds and hundreds of miles with your family? Illegal immigration is legal emigration. Massive emigration is the safety valve release that allows a dysfunctional society to perpetuate itself.

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