Republicans have to Cheat to Win

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Re: Republicans have to Cheat to Win

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EAllusion wrote:http://bedfordandbowery.com/2018/10/inside-the-proud-boy-event-that-sparked-violence-outside-of-uptown-gop-club/

Oh my god, EA. How should I go about unpacking this?

First, is it not obvious that this is a very slanted opinion piece? I'm doubtful that it's even an accurate description of what went down. If you find a video of what actually happened, let me know. It sounds like the author really wants you to think something scary happened, but it sounds more like Animal House.

Second, you said, "Democratic candidate for governor of Oregon hosting Antifa in his headquarters where they celebrate and reenact the assassination attempt of Ronald Reagan." This implies that they were joking about assassinating Obama or Hillary or some prominent democrat. Instead it turns out to be a skit related to some history in Japan of all places? That's not honest.

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Re: Republicans have to Cheat to Win

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
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Ah shucks, Cam. To earn your disdain is an absolute honor. Thank you, thank you.
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Re: Republicans have to Cheat to Win

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Water Dog wrote:
First, is it not obvious that this is a very slanted opinion piece? I'm doubtful that it's even an accurate description of what went down. If you find a video of what actually happened, let me know. It sounds like the author really wants you to think something scary happened, but it sounds more like Animal House.


Just normal frat-bro stuff like reenacting the famous assassination of a socialist by a far right nationalist 60 years ago at a gathering of far right nationalists.

Second, you said, "Democratic candidate for governor of Oregon hosting Antifa in his headquarters where they celebrate and reenact the assassination attempt of Ronald Reagan." This implies that they were joking about assassinating Obama or Hillary or some prominent democrat. Instead it turns out to be a skit related to some history in Japan of all places? That's not honest.


A skit related to some history in Japan? And here I thought I wasn't quote nailing the comparison because I picked an example of a failed assassination attempt by someone who didn't have a political agenda. The assassination of McKinley might've been a better example. You know, a skit related to the history of America. For laughs.

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Let's just push past the false equivalence in what those two things are and note that Kathy Griffin lost her job, was denounced by prominent Democrats, and represented zero traction within broader liberaldom.
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Re: Republicans have to Cheat to Win

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What's going on here? Let's play "guess the political affiliation."

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Re: Republicans have to Cheat to Win

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:It's funny how EAllusion, who is totally-not-a-Democrat, finds ways to vilify the Right at every turn, but can't be bothered to do a few google searches that would answer his own manufactured misdirections.

Sigh... Blindspots. Blindspots everywhere!

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When you fire up the google machine, you'll find that black bloc anarchists tend to not like the Democratic party and as a result of this and their political values might vote Green or, more likely, disavow voting entirely. You can't assume an anarchist is a Democrat simply by knowing they are a anarchist. Maybe, but also maybe not.

When one of their own becomes President of the United States and Democrats poll as being in favor of the things that make them bad in large numbers, let me know.
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Re: Republicans have to Cheat to Win

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EAllusion wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:It's funny how EAllusion, who is totally-not-a-Democrat, finds ways to vilify the Right at every turn, but can't be bothered to do a few google searches that would answer his own manufactured misdirections.

Sigh... Blindspots. Blindspots everywhere!

- Doc


When you fire up the google machine, you'll find that black bloc anarchists tend to not like the Democratic party and as a result of this and their political values might vote Green or, more likely, disavow voting entirely. You can't assume an anarchist is a Democrat simply by knowing they are a anarchist. Maybe, but also maybe not.

When one of their own becomes President of the United States and Democrats poll as being in favor of the things that make them bad in large numbers, let me know.


Something something they don't represent the Left, something something Trump is a Nazi.

Yeah, I got it.

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What are the chances that Trump will actually stoop so low as to try to suspend the 2020 election by claiming a "national emergency?" Is there any reasonable possibility that he could succeed in getting away with that were he try it?
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Re: Republicans have to Cheat to Win

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Something something they don't represent the Left, something something Trump is a Nazi.

Yeah, I got it.

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More of a a generic authoritarian with fascist tendencies who happens to be adored by Nazis and many Republicans for that very reason. But someone dressed in black threw a brick through a window somewhere, so it's the same thing.
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Gunnar wrote:What are the chances that Trump will actually stoop so low as to try to suspend the 2020 election by claiming a "national emergency?" Is there any reasonable possibility that he could succeed in getting away with that were he try it?


Extremely low. That Republicans say they would support him by slight majority if he were to do it is not good, though. And Republican opinion tends to shift in favor of extreme Republican actions over time after right-wing propaganda gets to them. That about half already favor it suggests how soft the opposition to such a thing already is.

Somewhat better chance that Trump creates a cloud of doubt around a loss if he loses in a way that creates total chaos.
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Re: Republicans have to Cheat to Win

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EAllusion wrote:More of a a generic authoritarian with fascist tendencies who happens to be adored by Nazis and many Republicans for that very reason. But someone dressed in black threw a brick through a window somewhere, so it's the same thing.


No? No integrity? Not gonna explain how "Black Bloc Anarchists" *cough* anarcho-communists *cough* are in bed with Leftists and actually endorse many Leftist ideologies? Not gonna show all the links between Democrats, Democrat politicians and Socialists, neomarxists, anarchists, and Communists? No? Not worried about current legitimate socialists elected under the Democrat banner? No? Doesn't bother you?

But, yeah, you're going to crap out any and all associations between nutjob neonazis and Confederates with Republicans.

I take it you're not very concerned with the infiltration of Marxist ideology within the Democratic party, academia, and culture? No? No gonna say anything? Just gonna shrug it off with a *pfft*? Yeah? That's you, right?

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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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