On audits, elections and public trust

[Mayan Elephant]

It seems to me that

More of your feelings not based on fact, Gunnar?

It appears this board is not actually a board of Internet Mormons, etc. It is a board of a single Ideologue of ex-Mormons who align with one political mantra and insult other views and observations. That, or it is a bunch of Internet Mormons who sit on their hands while the ideologues run amuck.

That was the whole point of the conversation, I suppose. To establish the acceptable ideology and exclaim it with passion. I have not done the same for another point of view, except to say that a contrary reasonable position can be had.

Gunnar, if you lie to me, I may never know. If you lie about me, I may never know. If you lie to me about me, I know. I have no reason to believe that what you have said about me or the conclusions you are sharing are base on anything but nonsense and ideology.

You have no idea what I know or do related to the pandemic, infection control, or how those things may influence my choices. I have no reason to respect anything you have to say, given what you said about me. No hard feelings, I just reject your premise and your conclusions about me. And you have zero credibility with me based solely on your assumptions and insults.

[Gadianton]

For me to participate again, two items:
1) In person voting ONLY with a single exception for deployed personnel who do not have access to a military base.
2) Valid voter ID that is consistent with audited voter registration rolls.

So you're good with vote counting of all forms, these weren't issues of any significance?

[Gunnar]

I don't think in person voting should be mandated unless election day is a designated holiday or on a weekend day rather than on a normal workday when most people have to work. Even then, despite conservatives' claim to the contrary, there is no compelling justification for the belief that voting by mail is necessarily less secure or more prone to voter fraud than in person voting. That is nothing but a myth invented by some dishonest politicians of either party (most recently Republicans) eager to find some excuse for contesting elections that don't go their way. Don't forget that before it became clear that Trump was in danger of losing the election, some of the earliest and most enthusiastic supporters of allowing all voters the option of mail in voting were red or conservative states.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

In Iowa, the Republican Party mailed absentee ballot applications to voters without waiting for requests. In Pennsylvania, the GOP’s website promotes voting by mail: "Vote Safe: By mail. From home.” And in Ohio, the Republican Party sent mailers with Trump’s photo saying “Join President Trump and Vote by Absentee Ballot.”

- Politico

I’m a little mystified where all this hostility toward mail-in voting originated for ME? It’s fine, even the GOP loves it.

- Doc

[Gunnar]

I’m a little mystified where all this hostility toward mail-in voting originated for ME? It’s fine, even the GOP loves it.

- Doc

I'm more than just a little mystified by that.

[Moksha]

74% of Republicans say that it was Antifa that participated in the January 6th Treason Weasel Insurrection.

[Mayan Elephant]

So you're good with vote counting of all forms, these weren't issues of any significance?

I am good with it enough. I do not like the digital voting (without the paper ballot). I would not vote on one of those. The single time that I saw one, I simply asked to use the paper ballot and they let me do that.

I am not into all that jackassery kraken kookiness. I have issues with anything that cannot be audited, but there are ways to audit digital information.

[Mayan Elephant]

74% of Republicans say that it was Antifa that participated in the January 6th Treason Weasel Insurrection.

you too?

[Mayan Elephant]

I don't think in person voting should be mandated unless election day is a designated holiday or on a weekend day rather than on a normal workday when most people have to work. Even then, despite conservatives' claim to the contrary, there is no compelling justification for the belief that voting by mail is necessarily less secure or more prone to voter fraud than in person voting. That is nothing but a myth invented by some dishonest politicians of either party (most recently Republicans) eager to find some excuse for contesting elections that don't go their way. Don't forget that before it became clear that Trump was in danger of losing the election, some of the earliest and most enthusiastic supporters of allowing all voters the option of mail in voting were red or conservative states.

Blue Anon

[Mayan Elephant]

In Iowa, the Republican Party mailed absentee ballot applications to voters without waiting for requests. In Pennsylvania, the GOP’s website promotes voting by mail: "Vote Safe: By mail. From home.” And in Ohio, the Republican Party sent mailers with Trump’s photo saying “Join President Trump and Vote by Absentee Ballot.”

- Politico

I’m a little mystified where all this hostility toward mail-in voting originated for ME? It’s fine, even the GOP loves it.

- Doc

unreal. absolutely unbelievable.