No: Elohim having sex with Mary which produced Jesus Christ turns away from the Christian tradition. Bringing the mason ceremony (the great whore) into the church turn's it into what? certainly not a bride. Marrying other men's wives when the man is still alive and the man and wife are not divorced turns away from the Christian tradition.
Call these hertical but still LDS are Christian. There are Christians polygamists today. Martin Luther performed a polygamous marriage. You do no own the term Christian nor do those claiming historical orthodoxy. Call us non orthodox, call us heritical Christians, but never the less Mormons are Christian attempting to say otherwise won't make it so.
I actually agree with this. "Christianity" is an umbrella with lots of different interpretations of Christ beneath it. But I also believe the same rule applies to calling yourself "Mormon." The FLDS and CofC have a right to call themselves "Mormons" if they wish. They can't call themselves the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, as that is a specific name for a specific denomination, but "Mormon" is an umbrella name with all the variations of Mormonism beneath it. If you believe Joseph Smith restored the church and the Book of Mormon is true, you're a Mormon. Warren Jeffs is a Mormon prophet, one of many Mormon prophets.
As noted I have no problem wit Jeff's saying he is a Mormon.
SatanWasSetUp wrote:My biggest problem with a Mormon president is what happens if they get a calling in their ward that conflicts with their presidential duties. What happens if one year into his presidency Mitt is called as Elder's Quorum President? When will he have time to pass out home teaching assignments? Or god forbid he is called to Bishop. His entire Sunday would be shot as far as his work in the White House goes.
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Uhhhhhh....my guess is he won't get any such calling while president.
Are you his bishop? Are you his Stake President? If the Lord needs Mitt to serve in his ward, I expect Mitt to be willing to sacrifice his time and talents. I'm sure Mitt can find time between cabinet meetings to call the people on his list to see if they did their home teaching that month.
"We of this Church do not rely on any man-made statement concerning the nature of Deity. Our knowledge comes directly from the personal experience of Joseph Smith." - Gordon B. Hinckley
"It's wrong to criticize leaders of the Mormon Church even if the criticism is true." - Dallin H. Oaks
SatanWasSetUp wrote:My biggest problem with a Mormon president is what happens if they get a calling in their ward that conflicts with their presidential duties. What happens if one year into his presidency Mitt is called as Elder's Quorum President? When will he have time to pass out home teaching assignments? Or god forbid he is called to Bishop. His entire Sunday would be shot as far as his work in the White House goes.
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Uhhhhhh....my guess is he won't get any such calling while president.
Are you his bishop? Are you his Stake President? If the Lord needs Mitt to serve in his ward, I expect Mitt to be willing to sacrifice his time and talents. I'm sure Mitt can find time between cabinet meetings to call the people on his list to see if they did their home teaching that month.
No but really, there are instances where a persons outside life would preclude such a call. I mean just sorta maybe being pres may be one of those.
Jason wrote:No but really, there are instances where a persons outside life would preclude such a call. I mean just sorta maybe being pres may be one of those.
Let's face it. If Romney did actually become the next President of the United States, the move would be HUGE for the Church.
The hard-line fundamentalists would be wondering when we were going to meet up in Missouri.
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Somehow, I have a feeling that Salt Lake would make allowances, and not call Mitt to anything while he was President.
That has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard a politician say (and I've heard most of Bush's speeches, so that's really saying something). If this guy gets elected, my family and I may have to move to the Bahamas.
Bye.
Right.
I'm willing to go on record, in order to be later mocked for having done so if events so unfold, and say there is no way Romney is going to be elected president.
I have lived most of my life surrounded by the very people that Romney will need to pull that lever for him - the religious right. I don't care what they tell a pollster, there ain't no way on God's green earth they are going in that booth and pulling the lever for a Mormon. They believe Mormonism is inspired of Satan, for cripe's sake.
I'm not saying they'd vote for a democrat, I'm saying they just won't vote.
I agree. At least, I hope and believe you're right.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
beastie wrote:I'm not saying they'd vote for a democrat, I'm saying they just won't vote.
Maybe they'll vote for the libertarian / green / or independant candidate. I for one would like to see something other than republicans and democrats having a real shot at politics, especially at the White House.
That's General Leo. He could be my friend if he weren't my enemy. eritis sicut dii I support NCMO
the road to hana wrote:Somehow I don't see him having to do home teaching.
Fine, but will his family be on the missionary calendar for dinners? What about building clean up? Maybe he could be 2nd counselor in something. The second counselors never do anything. There has to be some calling he could perform while president.
"We of this Church do not rely on any man-made statement concerning the nature of Deity. Our knowledge comes directly from the personal experience of Joseph Smith." - Gordon B. Hinckley
"It's wrong to criticize leaders of the Mormon Church even if the criticism is true." - Dallin H. Oaks
the road to hana wrote:Somehow I don't see him having to do home teaching.
Fine, but will his family be on the missionary calendar for dinners? What about building clean up? Maybe he could be 2nd counselor in something. The second counselors never do anything. There has to be some calling he could perform while president.
Doorway greeter. Politicians are good at shaking hands.
That's General Leo. He could be my friend if he weren't my enemy. eritis sicut dii I support NCMO