Does anything need to change here on MormonDiscussions.com?

[_John Larsen]

I think if you add the ignore feature it needs to be public so we can see that Hyrum is ignoring Joseph or something like that. That way, it can be like a public flogging and we can see who is having a tiff without reading their cat fights. ;)

[_Gazelam]

I voted No to changes.

1) Thanks to all who elected me to be a moderator. Very kind of you.

2) An ignore feature would be a horrible idea. You miss out on one of the most important features of the board, and that is that anyone can post here and say what they like. What growth is there without opposition?

3) We're at the p[lace know where Moses has come down from the mountain and shown us what we are capable of. Do we like the children of Israel ask that we get a detailed set of rules that tell us how we should live our lives in every facet of our existence? Or do we live the spirit of the law without having to have everything spelled out to us? Are we capable of exisitng in a self imposed higher standard?

Those that have been here for a while know what a great board we can create. We are obviously in a great social atmosphere. Many stay here for just that reason, we have fun here. Can we mix into this dorm room atmosphere the curriculum of the board, that is, intelligent discussion regarding religious thought?

I for one am guilty of beign lazy and unfocused as of late. I haven't been doing my personal studies and therefore have had little to offer here other than drive by's. I am sittign on a few thigns that involve my taking the time to transcribe from a video. One of which I think may just blow everyone away and spur some great discussion in a general religius sense and not just Mormon based. Ill try to get off my but on that.

I love this board, and it can be as great as we want it to be. If you see a lack, then fix it by way of your own posting. And don't forget, you can PM people to come to your thread. People love to be invited.

4) Shades has taught the people here correct principles. Lets govern ourselves.

[_mentalgymnast]

Inconceivable said:

I've lost quite a bit of interest over the past several months. I'm finding that most comments from posters are quite predictable and rehashed. Not much in the Celestial anymore as well. Many threads are about what others say on another board that I have no interest in. Many threads seems to be posted on because of the sheer boredom of the participants.

There is very little new blood that stays. I think it has a lot to do with the clich'ish nature among the participants."

MG: There you have it. In addition, very little is or ever has been accomplished by bashing. It's been a good while since I've dropped by here...nothing has changed.

Sooner or later this board will go the way of ZLMB. There really is very little that is "new under the sun". The bashers will keep bashing because they don't have anything more productive to do.

by the way, I don't know if anyone here has mentioned it or not, but there is an interview with Robert Millet (professor of Ancient Scripture and the Richard L. Evans Professor of Religious Understanding at Brigham Young University) over at "Speaking of Faith" that is worth listening to. Go to:

http://speakingoffaith.publicradio.org/ ... ndex.shtml

Regards,
MG

[_Inconceivable]

by the way, I don't know if anyone here has mentioned it or not, but there is an interview with Robert Millet (professor of Ancient Scripture and the Richard L. Evans Professor of Religious Understanding at Brigham Young University) over at "Speaking of Faith" that is worth listening to. Go to:

http://speakingoffaith.publicradio.org/ ... ndex.shtml

Regards,
MG

hijacker.

[_Boaz & Lidia]

I'm undecided. On the one hand, I'd like PP's avatar to change. I'm a big boy and cand handle it however rude I find it, but when I read the board at home or in front of other Mormons I feel embarassed for them. That said, I can fix the problem on my side with a Firefox plug-in.

I am happy that my avatar caused many grief. It's their fault. The L, V, and dash were around long before Joe started cheating on Emma.

However, a friend asked me to change it.

I just hope this new one finds offense with someone.

No, that is not Emma that old humpin' Joe is making the moves on...

[_Ren]

I think stronger moderation in Celestial is a very good idea..and not the splitting or moving as a way to moderate. For some of us, that just ends the discussion. Especially keeping things on topic. Often when I am reading I give up after a while because people have so gone off on tangents or little side conservations, it just doesn't seem worth it to even try to participate.

Indeed Alter.
The ironic thing is that stronger moderation only in the Celestial room - in practice - would probably be far less intrusive (in my opinion) than something like an ignore feature. Far less.

...why? Because there's next to nothing going on up there usually...
So if I'm wrong, and moving to 'stronger' moderation in the Celestial room is a 'bad idea' (or a useless idea), then it's not going to affect 95% of what goes on here (i.e. mainly the Terrestial room). Next to nobody is going to care...!
(I find it a touch amusing that a suggestion like this - from some - is taken as if the sky is about to fall on their heads!)

But if I'm right, then hopefully we'll see a migration of some 'Celestial worthy' topics up there, when people see that they can start threads and they'll 'work out'. Hence both rooms will become a bit more 'fit for purpose'.

I'm arguing for heavy moderation in the room where - in it's subtitle - it says heavily moderated.
That's about as 'crazy' as wanting planes to fly, and ducks to quack.
Someone lock me up. I'm ouuttaa coooonnntrrrooooool! :D


Splitting and moving on it's own CAN work. But not only is it a lot more work but - as you say - if it's the ONLY option available, then often it's the more disruptive option. But who knows - we have a new moderator on board now, so let's see how we go...
Either way, I'd like to see emphasis placed on keeping Celestial threads under control - not just in terms of swearing and respect, but also in terms of keeping the thread on topic to what the OP'er intended - even if the thread is an interesting one that has a lot of input from lots of people (THAT's when it gets really tricky - and it's going to get a lot more tricky if the Celestial room does get busier - which is what we want right...?)
I think that's really what a lot of people are looking for, and what is sometimes missing at the moment.

I think that if you decide to go to the Terrestial board, you should expect a LOT more leeway all round... But in that case, you need to be able to expect something different in the Celestial room.
I personally wouldn't care if the Terrestial room was left as it is now - barely moderated - with things being split off into the Telestial as they are now - for off-topic / OTT attacks, OTT language, porn etc. That's fine with me - as long as the Celestial room 'does it's job'. Properly.


EDIT: And I still like my idea of splitting the Celestial room into 3 different rooms: Theological, Philosophical / Scientific and Secular - personally.
The argument about what people should and shouldn't be able to talk about in that one thread started in the Celestial room is still going on!
Splitting into these 3 rooms would naturally help organisation of topic, even without much extra moderation effort.

[_beastie]

I think more moderation in the CK is a good idea. But since traffic in the CK is already slow in terms of responses, I think that splitting the forum up will slow it down even more. I'm just assuming that some of the reason traffic is slow is because other people are like me, and just get into a habit of clicking on ONE forum and most of the time don't even think about clicking into other forums. So I suspect that one forum would become the more popular CK "room", and the others would have even less traffic than the overall CK has now.

[_Ren]

I think more moderation in the CK is a good idea. But since traffic in the CK is already slow in terms of responses, I think that splitting the forum up will slow it down even more.

Maybe. But the counter-argument might be that if you split the rooms up, someone might think 'Ohh - a room specifically for the kind of conversation I want to have. There is a 'chance' I can post my topic in there, and not have it turn into a debate about 'X' or 'Y' other issues. Maybe I should post it there, rather than in the Terrestial room...'

That's what I'd like to think might happen...

I'm sure one of the sub-rooms might get more popular then the others. But personally, I think we have quite a bit of interest in all three of those areas - looking at the kind of people that post here.

I can appreciate it's a hassle to have to go into the Celestial room and then into a sub-room. That could be made easier by being able to see the sub-rooms right on the 'top level', just 'foldered' sub-rooms under Celestial. There'd be different ways to approach it...

[_mentalgymnast]

[quote="Inconceivable"][quote="mentalgymnast"]by the way, I don't know if anyone here has mentioned it or not, but there is an interview with Robert Millet (professor of Ancient Scripture and the Richard L. Evans Professor of Religious Understanding at Brigham Young University) over at "Speaking of Faith" that is worth listening to. Go to:

http://speakingoffaith.publicradio.org/ ... ndex.shtml

Regards,
MG[/quote]

hijacker.[/quote]

True. Sorry. When I was more of a regular on this board some of the threads that I created were pretty much hijacked and distorted from their original intent. I suppose I was thinking that it had become a regular occurrence. Doesn't make it right though.

Regards,
MG

[_Benjamin McGuire]

Boaz and Lidia writes:

I am happy that my avatar caused many grief. It's their fault. The L, V, and dash were around long before Joe started cheating on Emma.

I love this. It's THEIR fault that YOU are causing them grief. It has nothing to do with you. You are blameless (and innocent). You had no idea that you would be causing grief. Yes, I see that now. Why couldn't I see that before ...

I doubt it's caused anyone any real grief. Actually, all it really did was to let us believing LDS know that you want to portray yourself as a complete ass with nothing of real value to add to the discussion. When your object is to be as offensive as possible, the only real message that is sent on a forum like this is that you aren't interested in any kind of dialogue, only in denigrating LDS believers and the LDS church. Unfortunately, it is attitudes like this that kill forums, since at some point, your target audience (those who are more than marginally LDS) will eventually just leave, leaving you with no-one who is really going to be affected by anything you have to say (and removing your source of enjoyment that you get in participating here).

Your repeated statements about the glee that you have every time some LDS person is affected by the comments you make suggests to me that while your comments would be much better appreciated at RFM, RFM wouldn't give you the joy you get from offending others. And of course, places like MADB would never tolerate you.