Themis wrote:It does not need to be astute based on what you said. Again I am not trying to be mean, but when you say what I quoted you on, it's obvious you need much more education on the subject. Perhaps you could start reseaching why groups with certain DNA are going to have certain physical characteristics which include skin color.
Its what I'm doing. I asked a simple question, but with that I realize I am quite unlearned on this topic, not much different than others here. By all means help out if ya like.
Love ya tons, Stem
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stemelbow wrote:Its what I'm doing. I asked a simple question, but with that I realize I am quite unlearned on this topic, not much different than others here. By all means help out if ya like.
I'm leaving town, and don't have enough time for this kind of thing anyway, but the other thread covered this issue fairly well. I just suggest you learn a little more about DNA that has nothing to do with LDS issues. It would help a lot, and yes I can benefit from more as well.
The Mormon hypothesis, which states the Haplogroup X in North American could be the result of descendants of Lehi and Sariah as mentioned in the Book of Mormon.
A new study looks at the Druze population in Lebanon and Northern Israel to examine the high frequency of Haplogroup X among them. Haplogroup X is highly concentrated in this group which has a 1000 year history of isolationism, consanguinity, and endogamy. The Druze are Islamic and not Jewish but have observed a strict orthodox religious and cultural practice since the founding around 1000 AD. The Druze come from a heterogenous founding population which is evidence of the low rate of genetic disease as opposed to the Ashkenazi Jews. But, the high rate of haplogroup X, especially in Galilee, is not believed to have originated with them but is believed to have been a reflection of the genetics of the population at the time the Druze settled Israel. Because of this, the Druze are considered in this latest paper "a population genetic refugium."
Now, Jews did not live in Ottoman Turk controlled Palestine in 1000 AD, but Samaritans still did. It is also less likely that haplogroup X came from the Turks because although Druze DNA is most like current Turkish DNA, Turks don't exhibit haplogroup X to the same degree as the Druze. The source population of Haplogroup X in the Druze is still unknown but remains an intriguing detail.
All population genetic papers assume the time that these migrations happened occurred over 10,000 to 60,000 years ago. However, religionist have never agreed with scientific dating which is based on the assumption of constant rate of cosmic rays hitting the Earth, producing a constant ratio of elemental isotopes, and a constant rate of DNA mutation. There is clear evidence from environmental data that gamma radiation varies over the centuries and science needs to measure and account for this variation in scientific dating.
The recent work of Reidla et al. (2003) confirms the statements above indicating that the haplogroup X DNA in the Americas is not directly related to the unusual little pocket haplogroup X DNA in Siberia (the Altai region). In fact, their study of X DNA is consistent with the idea that the general region of the Middle East (West Eurasia) ultimately could have been the source of the haplogroup X DNA found in the Americas, though they give dates (based on standard dating assumptions) that are many thousands of years too early to explain haplogroup X in the Americas by an appeal to the Book of Mormon.
Brackite wrote: The best answer that I can think of is that Lehi's and Sariah's human mitochondrial (maternal) DNA haplogroup would likely have been lineage X.
Even if it was we don't see it in native groups. The x haplogroup x we do see was here a very long time before 600 BC.
Brackite wrote: The best answer that I can think of is that Lehi's and Sariah's human mitochondrial (maternal) DNA haplogroup would likely have been lineage X.
Even if it was we don't see it in native groups. The x haplogroup x we do see was here a very long time before 600 BC.
Yup.
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