The Name of the TRUE Church

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_Mittens
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Re: The Name of the TRUE Church

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gdemetz wrote:You are clearly wrong Mittens. I already gave you the reference from Revelation 20 which shows you are wrong. However, I will break it down more for you. or rather let Steve Wohlberg break it down for you verse by verse. See "The 1000 Millennium"!



guess it depends on which calender you go by, and Revelation 20 is symbolic
Justice = Getting what you deserve
Mercy = Not getting what you deserve
Grace = Getting what you can never deserve
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Give me a break Mittens. I know that you would like to just brush the whole chapter off by stating that it is merely symbolic, but it is clearly not. It is a vivid description of events that will surely come to pass!!!
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gdemetz wrote:Give me a break Mittens. I know that you would like to just brush the whole chapter off by stating that it is merely symbolic, but it is clearly not. It is a vivid description of events that will surely come to pass!!!


There are mythological creatures in Revelations. Do you believe they are all real and literal creatures?
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No, Just Me, of course not. Some of these beasts, in other chapters, represent kingdoms, which is a common Jewish symbolism.
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gdemetz wrote:No, Just Me, of course not. Some of these beasts, in other chapters, represent kingdoms, which is a common Jewish symbolism.


So, parts are symbolic and parts are literal. How do you know which is which?
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just me wrote:
gdemetz wrote:No, Just Me, of course not. Some of these beasts, in other chapters, represent kingdoms, which is a common Jewish symbolism.


So, parts are symbolic and parts are literal. How do you know which is which?

Prophets Dan and Hambone tell him which are which.
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just me wrote:
So, parts are symbolic and parts are literal. How do you know which is which?


You take the time to study and not jump to agenda-oriented conclusions.

Blessings,

jo
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jo1952 wrote:
just me wrote:
So, parts are symbolic and parts are literal. How do you know which is which?


You take the time to study and not jump to agenda-oriented conclusions.

Blessings,

jo

So, you did it and know it.

And hold out it on us. Be more helpful, please...
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ludwigm wrote:
jo1952 wrote:
You take the time to study and not jump to agenda-oriented conclusions.

Blessings,

jo

So, you did it and know it.

And hold out it on us. Be more helpful, please...


Exactly!

Well, my "agenda" when studying was to learn the truth that god wanted me to know. my bad.
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Re: The Name of the TRUE Church

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The Book of Revelation is not something that you can read casually a few times and become an expert on it. I have studied it for years and written a commentary on it which I need to make a few changes on. However, when it mentions a beast "having seven heads and ten horns," that is a very good clue that it is not literal, and when it states that we "will reign with Christ" for a thousand years, then that is a good clue to me that it can be taken literally, especially since this period and events are mentioned a number of times.
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