5 yo white boy murdered at point blank range

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Yeah, I've already expressed multiple times how they've moved beyond egalitarianism and police reform into Marxism. We can agree that's ridiculous. That said, if we can get better policing out of the movement I can definitely get behind that aspect of their protests.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:06 pm
Yeah, I've already expressed multiple times how they've moved beyond egalitarianism and police reform into Marxism. We can agree that's ridiculous. That said, if we can get better policing out of the movement I can definitely get behind that aspect of their protests.

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Is yours not an "end justifies the means" argument?
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No.

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Holy crap.

Fox News is literally saying this poor kid was murdered for racial reasons because of BLM and the Democrats, despite the fact that his parents were adamant about it having NOTHING to do with race and NOTHING to do with politics. The fact that FOX News doesn't care what the parents say proves they're the worst excuse for journalism there is. They manufactured a controversy over this because they needed a false equivalence to further attack BLM and detract attention from Trump's dumpster fire administration.
On Fox News, Raymond Arroyo, who was stepping in for Laura Ingraham on The Ingraham Angle Friday, falsely suggested there was no outrage over Cannon's death.

"Cannon, a white child, was allegedly executed in front of his siblings by a 25-year-old black man and convicted felon," Arroyo said with a chyron that read, "Where is outrage over slaying of Cannon Hinnant?"

A guest on the show, Pastor Darrell Scott, told Arroyo that Cannon's death "is a result of this atmosphere of racial hatred and hostility towards white people that is being promoted by the ultra radical left, by the Black Lives Matter organization and also by extension the Democratic Party."

However, police have given no indication about what the motive of the shooting was or suggested it was racially motivated. Cannon's parents and grandmother did not respond to requests for comment, but had told multiple news outlets that although they don't know why the 5-year-old was shot, they don't believe it was racially motivated.

"This is no racial issue," Hinnant told the Wilson Times.

His grandmother, Gwen Hinnant, told The Washington Post that although she felt her grandson's death merited more attention, the killing was not racially motivated.

Cannon's mother, Bonny Waddell, also wrote in a Facebook post referring to George Floyd, a Black man who was killed after a Minneapolis police officer knelt on his neck, "THIS HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE AND DO NOT COMPARE THIS TO FLOYD!"
"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
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subgenius wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:55 pm
Some Schmo wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:37 pm
She's black, a woman and a Democrat.
The only qualifications Biden had for a candidate and the only reasons you support the choice...but yeah, you are sooo different from Ajax because your racism is truly "righteous"!
Being a Puerto Rican Ned Ryerson doesn't mean you're not a racist “F”, by the way.
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Icarus wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:02 pm
subgenius wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:55 pm
The only qualifications Biden had for a candidate and the only reasons you support the choice...but yeah, you are sooo different from Ajax because your racism is truly "righteous"!
Being a Puerto Rican Ned Ryerson doesn't mean you're not a racist ____, by the way.
Never said I was not racist, on this board I have often touted the benefits and inevitability of discrimination by groups and/or individuals. But i do recognize that "racism" is rightly considered as "bad" when it impedes another person's Constitutional and legal rights. Unlike you, I understand the concept of racism from a personal and also academic perspective (eg anecdotal and by being literate).
Take for example your need to point out my race as a means to insult - to you it is totally benign to mention my race, because you are using it to lobby what you consider to be a more emphatic condemnation - but in reality it just bothers you that I am not white, which is ok because your feelings about my skin color have no relevance to my life, liberty, or pursuit of happiness. But likely, my skin color bothers the latter for you.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:26 pm
No.

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So, when you say
"That said, if we can get better policing out of the movement I can definitely get behind that aspect of their protests"
that would mean that if we do NOT get better policing out of the movement you would still get behind that aspect of their protests?
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That aspect? Of course. That's literally what I said. The rest of the stuff I find abhorrent, destructive, and insane.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:26 pm
That aspect? Of course. That's literally what I said. The rest of the stuff I find abhorrent, destructive, and insane.

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No, you "literally" said the opposite, but it was framed as a condition, ergo my inquiry about end/means.
So it seems irrelevant for you to point out that aspect since generally speaking you are stating that no matter what you would appreciate "better policing" - which I would suspect is nonpartisan goal. But since "the movement" is not without its abhorrent means, it seems your position is rather locked in to end justifes means.
Im sorry for my confusion but it seems that "better policing" at that cost is irrational?
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Subgenius,

When I said “That said, if we can get better policing out of the movement I can definitely get behind that aspect of their protests” I was saying ‘I can get behind the aspect of wanting better policing and protesting for that thing’. It’s that aspect that I support. I support protesting for that thing.

All the rest of it, the looting, stealing, CHAZ’s, arson, rape, murder, hitting and otherwise assaulting anyone considered to be not-them AND their moaning about reparations, more money, more housing for them, and whatever other Marxist BS they think they’re entitled to because someone upline was a slave and now they’re forever stuck so it’s gonna cost us because something something privilege... No.

I’m cool with giving people a fair shake based on the content of their character, not the color of their skin. I’m not cool with being subjected to shakedowns under the threat of violence. I hope I made myself clearer.

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