Trump openly admits to sabotaging Post Office to boost his re-election chances

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Re: Trump openly admits to sabotaging Post Office to boost his re-election chances

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Gunnar wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:23 am
I still think that one of the important reasons Trump wanted to be President in the first place, is desperation to use the office of the Presidency to immunize himself from just indictment and prosecution for numerous crimes he has already committed and hopes to get away with as President.
This sounds a little post hoc to me. Had he not run for office, he'd not have had the high number of investigators up his ass vetting him, and most of his malfeasance likely would have gone undetected.

But now that the world knows he's a fu-cking idiot criminal thug, the motive you cite has kicked in; he definitely wants to be reelected for legal immunization.
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Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:56 am
Yet another disturbing factor in the mail-in vote problem is that refusal to extend rent forgiveness or mortgage payment forgiveness to those who have lost their jobs because of the pandemic means that a significant number or people are in danger of losing their homes and becoming homeless. How do we mail ballots to people who have just lost their homes and are forced to live on the streets or in their cars? This is likely part of Trump's design too. He obviously is willing to do anything, whether fair or foul to avoid being voted out of office, no matter whom or how many he has to hurt to prevent that.
Do you have any reliable evidence that the number of voters who would have "no address" AND that would be unable/unwilling to vote in-person total a statistical number which makes such a strategy plausible for any candidate?
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Fairly clever photoshopping. Instead of continually desecrating this religious moment, perhaps the post office box could shown be in the LDS Temple or the Falwell orgy pit next time.
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moksha wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:56 pm
Fairly clever photoshopping. Instead of continually desecrating this religious moment, perhaps the post office box could shown be in the LDS Temple or the Falwell orgy pit next time.
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subgenius wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:52 pm
Gunnar wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:56 am
Yet another disturbing factor in the mail-in vote problem is that refusal to extend rent forgiveness or mortgage payment forgiveness to those who have lost their jobs because of the pandemic means that a significant number or people are in danger of losing their homes and becoming homeless. How do we mail ballots to people who have just lost their homes and are forced to live on the streets or in their cars? This is likely part of Trump's design too. He obviously is willing to do anything, whether fair or foul to avoid being voted out of office, no matter whom or how many he has to hurt to prevent that.
Do you have any reliable evidence that the number of voters who would have "no address" AND that would be unable/unwilling to vote in-person total a statistical number which makes such a strategy plausible for any candidate?
No, I don't, but it stands to reason that if people who have lost their jobs are evicted from their homes because extension of rent forgiveness is denied them, it is going to be difficult for them to get their mail-in ballots mailed to them, if they no longer have a permanent address. As stated in the OP, Trump freely admits he is trying to suppress or limit mail-in voting, and why he is doing it.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:22 pm
Gunnar wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:23 am
I still think that one of the important reasons Trump wanted to be President in the first place, is desperation to use the office of the Presidency to immunize himself from just indictment and prosecution for numerous crimes he has already committed and hopes to get away with as President.
This sounds a little post hoc to me. Had he not run for office, he'd not have had the high number of investigators up his ass vetting him, and most of his malfeasance likely would have gone undetected.
Are you sure of that? Wasn't he already being investigated for illegal, criminal activity? Certainly he was under investigation for his Trump University scam.
But now that the world knows he's a fu-cking idiot criminal thug, the motive you cite has kicked in; he definitely wants to be reelected for legal immunization.
There seems to be little, and diminishing doubt of that, at least!
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Damaging the mail to keep people from voting for someone other than Trump is the act of a tyrant.
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Gunnar wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:01 am
Some Schmo wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:22 pm

This sounds a little post hoc to me. Had he not run for office, he'd not have had the high number of investigators up his ass vetting him, and most of his malfeasance likely would have gone undetected.
Are you sure of that? Wasn't he already being investigated for illegal, criminal activity? Certainly he was under investigation for his Trump University scam.
Yes, but I think the Russia investigation led to flipping over a lot more stones than originally intended, because, as you know, Trump is nothing but an idiotic thug (the thing that attracts his base to him, being the dipsh-its they are). The dude's never earned a dollar in his life. It's all stolen.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:53 pm
Yes, but I think the Russia investigation led to flipping over a lot more stones than originally intended, because, as you know, Trump is nothing but an idiotic thug (the thing that attracts his base to him, being the dipsh-its they are). The dude's never earned a dollar in his life. It's all stolen.
I definitely have no argument with that!
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